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parenzo16. 02. 2021 15:26:57
Hribolaznik, depending on conditions any route can be demanding. Labeling some route for beginners is quite off, if not arrogant.
And it's not just the entry jump, there's also a nasty overhang and higher up another "detail"...

So...
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bongo16. 02. 2021 17:36:30
@parenzo This description for Kramarca you find on the Stremfelj guiding page, so it's not Hribolaznik's opinion. Good luck
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exwannabe16. 02. 2021 18:21:28
@zavest, first read my first comment and then what Iztok said on RTV. Do you still think it's about so-called bashing as you mentioned. No worries, my first comment was as it was for a reason, info comes to public with a slight delay.
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ljubitelj gora16. 02. 2021 20:23:45
What happened is so sad, and to the most experienced. A few years ago we three climbed it and something similar could have happened then too. For more I'm adding a picture, we weren't the only ones.
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1muha16. 02. 2021 20:50:00
Can you stop being smart, three died. Condolences to all relatives and loved ones.
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Lukito26. 04. 2021 18:59:56
24.4.2021 - A loop around Storžič

When packing for Storžič on Friday, I rather took a larger backpack and loaded everything - ropes, slings, harness, pitons, helmet, crampons, ice axe and the rest of the gear. In the morning we arrived at the hut below Storžič, divided the gear so I had the heavier backpack of course, and set off. I chose the most prominent gully - Žrelo. According to the ski touring guide Alpinistično smučanje Karavanke, the route description is quite clear and nicely drawn.

At the gully entrance we gear up properly, I put the camera on the helmet (that's why some pics are in a different ratio), and the climbing partner starts at a normal pace on the firm base to the first "jump". From there there's no excessive steepness again, the base becomes a bit softer. Approaching the second jump, I spot a nice belay right in the wall. The second jump is steeper and longer, iced over too. We struggle a bit and climb, ice axes and crampons grip well.

A few meters higher I look up, ridge in the sun. The first projectile arrives, which would've taken us in the second jump if we had been a couple of minutes slower. Higher by the big rock a short stop, quick chocolate, isotonic, check which exit option to choose. First attempt not the best choice, so we traverse further right, and the real path appears. Wall vertical but base firm too, we scramble to the ridge.
We continue on the ridge, which on the south side is mushy or has rotten snow, on the north side solid concrete. Crampons on rock and stones are annoying, but we don't want to change footwear every few meters. It went fine. Higher the path turns to the S side again, and the iced chimney secured with two cables is a nice climbing challenge (I clipped nicely with a sling and karabiner - better alive p.... than dead hero).

Further the ridge is narrower but the summit finally appears. Still some ridge ahead, from the S side we hear and see the police helicopter that arrived and circled for a few minutes. Ridge ahead is 1/2 concrete and 1/2 rotten or mushy. Beautifully exposed. Great. I quickly turned right, and we descended to the south side towards the prominent gully, and rather safely around the corner to the summit.


On the summit a bit of photos, selfies, chat with other hikers, then time for descent. We descended towards Bašeljski preval and then (quite long) walked to Javorški preval. This part of the path: snowfield, animal throws rocks at you because it flees from you, then bare trail, then fallen trees, then literally the Virgin Mary appears and you spot the sign Dom pod Storžičem - 45min, and from sheer luck you do it in 22.5 minutes. Then you drink everything you left in the car "because we won't need that much for drinking". (Why such path choice? Because...)
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View back2
Already through the first jump3
Above the first drop4
Towards the second, the terrain becomes narrower and steeper5
Belay point6
Below the second jump7
Above the second jump8
View back - here a larger projectile flew by9
View back from the ridge10
Here we both exited11
view back to the ridge12
Courageously ahead13
Icy chimney14
further along the ridge15
The summit appears16
Detour on the S. side17
towards the summit18
Summit!19
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Košuta ridge21
Križ22
Around the arse into ....23
View back24
Marija appears25
Hozana...26
One more look at the route27
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Dr.ejči27. 04. 2021 07:36:39
Nice!... we too this year, while climbing Central (exit on your pic 15 mežikanje), descended around the ass to safety (draaaaags) velik nasmeh
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Lukito27. 04. 2021 09:38:38
That pic 23 I originally wanted to praise that newer watches have maps loaded right on the wrist and you can track if you're really on the path. On this descent I'd prefer to turn the corner much higher, but you have to descend to about 1500m, then a bit lower. It's not trodden so you don't know where it goes. Marks are there or not and again you don't know higher or lower. Well with modern tech you surely save quite a few steps. velik nasmeh
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Dr.ejči27. 04. 2021 09:48:02
Hahahaha... well, we went "old school"... by (one of us, others by feel) knowledge of the terrain... in the light of headlamps, of course velik nasmeh
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Lukito27. 04. 2021 10:06:59
Yeah, can be fun velik nasmeh
Mountaineering.1
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Dr.ejči27. 04. 2021 11:28:39
...we went, by the way, clockwise mežikanje... Pl. Javornik, both Polani, past the hut, to the valley mežikanje
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Turbolazec2. 05. 2021 22:01:06
Hi! Does anyone perhaps know what the conditions are like in Kramarjeva route? I'd go on Tuesday. Thanks
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Todi3. 05. 2021 05:51:33
At least until Saturday, no going to Kramarjeva, ... about half a meter of new snow, and after that questionable
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Turbolazec9. 05. 2021 12:15:32
Hi. Has anyone been in Kramarjeva route in the last few days? Is it still decently iced up, lots of new snow? Thanks for answers
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JusAvgustin9. 05. 2021 17:59:37
Look at the path under your feet.mežikanje
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j.10. 05. 2021 05:57:46
This is how it looked yesterday (Sunday, May 9) from Ženiklovec and from Rekar. If it helps you...
From Ženiklovec...1
From Rekarje...2
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ljubitelj gora21. 05. 2021 22:07:24
Started a bit above Bašelj along the SW ridge to Storžič, goes without winter gear. Windy at the top, descent towards Kališče.
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Volk23. 05. 2021 10:29:38
Yesterday in gloom to the top. Raindrops already below Kališče, but I persist. The mountain in solitary, windy, misty grayness offers a completely different face than to most ...
During some step you inevitably ask yourself; why here in such weather?
Peaceful in simple self.

Good luck.
Through blooming cotoneaster ...1
The largest patch on the northern side ...2
Under the cable ...3
Kramar'ca ...4
Firs within hand's reach ...5
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The child in me ...7
Broken ...8
Soon farewell ...9
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kozorog9428. 05. 2021 12:37:07
Has anyone been to Storžič in the last few days? What are the conditions like (over Žrelo, over Psica and Kališče)? Thanks.
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ppegan28. 05. 2021 13:35:18
From behind Storžič still looks quite snowy, maybe it lost a cm, but northern paths are definitely still under snow. From Kališče the situation is better, but towards the top there is also still snow, so you won't get away without winter gear mežikanje If you check the post above, you'll learn quite a bit too velik nasmeh
Storžič is on the right, the northern side is still quite snowy.1
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