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For via ferrata lovers

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urbancek16. 04. 2012 17:04:43
I know about Gonžarjeva...
Aha, then that's more or less it...

Thanks!
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gregcs116. 04. 2012 17:36:04
In Austria, near the town of Finkenstein, there is the Kanzianiberg climbing area. There are about 30 via ferratas of various difficulties and lengths. The guidebook (climbing + via ferratas) is sold at the inn/hotel near the golf course and costs 15€.

Access: Kranjska Gora - Wurzenpass - right towards Beljak, before the motorway underpass right to Finkenstein. After about 5km, in Finkenstein sharp right and another km slightly uphill. Parking is on the left, the first via ferratas start almost from the parking lot.

http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/22046/
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neph22. 04. 2012 22:17:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOzhOs9SAws&feature=related

I post the above video mainly as a warning to all those I see on via ferratas secured with endless loops or auxiliary cords in combination with karabiners with nuts.
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Keko23. 04. 2012 01:45:47
Regarding the presentation in the video, it might be good to also explain a bit the difference between a log fall and a human fall, as there are some differences in the forces acting on the safety device. In a fall from 4 meters to the bolt that holds the fall, you need to add about 1 meter for the length of the safety device, so the fall is at least 5 meters. In a fall from 5 meters, the falling body reaches about 36 km/h. Since the log is a rigid body and absorbs no energy, the safety device must absorb all the energy. If the safety device is an endless loop that stretches almost nothing, an almost infinite force acts on it, as it must stop the fall in an instant, which it can't and it breaks. Slightly better is the safety cord if it's dynamic and can stretch. Since it's very short, its stretch is also not sufficient to stop the fall, as the force is still too great. But if we have a modern safety set that stretches 2 meters, the stopping force is reduced enough that it holds. From a rough calculation, we get a speed of 25 m/s, which means a stopping force at 80 kg load of 2000 N or 200 kg, which the human body can withstand. In my opinion, in a similar human fall, the other safety devices wouldn't break either, as the human body, due to its non-rigid construction, would absorb enough energy, which unfortunately would show in a broken spine, internal injuries, tears, dislocated joints, broken neck, etc... In short, a person doesn't survive such a fall with almost static protections. Even modern safety devices don't do miracles and such falls can end with serious injuries.
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miha18824. 04. 2012 13:51:22
First time on via ferratas

Hi,

just wondering (besides gradually starting by difficulty) and using self-belay, is any other special knowledge needed for via ferratas?


Thanks and best regards
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CarpeDiem24724. 04. 2012 14:17:39
Yes, systematically increase the difficulty, of course. Otherwise, better start with shorter ones, if vertigo or fear of heights appears by chance, so the "fear" can end quickly or descend or continue on a less demanding path! nasmeh
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Keko24. 04. 2012 14:36:09
It depends a lot on how you approach via ferratas. If you go with a group that has qualified people among them for solving eventual problems, then it's on you to ensure good physical and mental readiness and proper equipment. You must know how to properly use the safety set, lanyard, distribute force correctly. Very important is to warm up before starting and to begin gradually, carefully and without rushing. Knowledge of proper belaying and rappelling is also welcome if you plan to tackle harder via ferratas.
It's important that your skills develop according to increasing difficulty. The better you can take care of yourself, the less burden you are to others.
You can also attend some similar training, like the one a few days ago in Lavamünd specifically for via ferrata climbing.
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geppo24. 04. 2012 15:19:01
miha188
just as they already advised you.
Via ferratas require knowledge and gradual increase in difficulty level. First I recommend attending some course or going with an experienced via ferrata climber.
It's bad when you find yourself in trouble alone on the wall. No via ferratas here, abroad any help costs a lot....!!
Best regards
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ljubitelj gora24. 04. 2012 16:15:45
If you don't have company for via ferratas, you can write to me on ZS and we'll arrange sometime in summer, best to start with easier ones.
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Mercus24. 04. 2012 20:44:03
Hi, I'm interested if you can list via ferratas in Slovenia and nearby Austria. You mention some very often, but nowhere are they compiled together.

So there's plenty of info but hard to find. (and don't say go buy a bookmrk pogled)
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ljubitelj gora24. 04. 2012 20:53:44
1. Cjajnik
2. Via della Vita
3. Via Italiana
4. Visoka Ponca descent via ferrata (no description on hribi.net, but newly renovated).

I only know these, which are the "real" ones, although ferrata means secured climbing path.... others will say more with professional terms.
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Irina24. 04. 2012 21:19:24
Something for via ferrata lovers, or should I say addicts.

http://www.bergsteigen.at/de/Bericht.aspx?ID=14233
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Mercus24. 04. 2012 23:06:59
Yeah well, there are more of those (hope so), interested in other similar paths, e.g.

Gradiška tura, Gonžarjeva, Lavamund, Pogačnikova na Grmado
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turbo25. 04. 2012 09:23:04
@Mercus

I N T E R N E T ! ! !

In 1/2h browsing you cover Italy, Austria and local areas. Hungary is a special chapter.
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miha1885. 06. 2012 11:17:49
Thanks everyone for the tips, which I'll of course follow and also for the offer to introduce nasmeh.


Best, Miha.
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vanja14. 09. 2012 16:07:05
Looking for some kindred spirit who likes via ferrata climbing and doesn't love trudging.
Lately candidates are scarce so I hike Austrian via ferratas alone.
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ljubitelj gora4. 09. 2012 18:05:51
There is a FB group that climbs these Austrian ferratas.
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vanja15. 09. 2012 11:08:45
Big thanks for this link.
Although it's not much help, as I'm not a Facebook fan, in other words I don't use it.
Do they have another contact or do I have to dive into FB?

LP.
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pinkerton5. 09. 2012 12:21:05
@vanja1 - if Maribor isn't too far for you, there the ferrata climbers are organized and do just that. Extremely happy for every new member

http://pd-mbmatica.si/feratarstvo.html
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