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Rombon

ales503. 09. 2018 16:41:38

It's worth going to Rombon, just wait for the weather to improve, I'm heading up, flowers are still there, the sun will shine and flowers will peek out on the meadow

haridautovic30. 09. 2018 21:57:46

Rombon is paradise - Sunrise on Čukla and walk to summit Rombon,,

even a fly posed for me in such nice weather

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ales501. 10. 2018 16:58:15

Yeah, really is, up there mosque still partially preserved, to me one of most attractive peaks, nasmeh

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raubšic1. 10. 2018 18:13:04

What mosque, just some stones, nothing else.
You need vivid imagination to see the mosque zmeden

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turbo1. 10. 2018 18:17:58

Oh, there was a mosque. One on Rombon and another in the valley, in Log pod Mangartom.

https://www.rtvslo.si/kultura/drugo/ostanki-najvisje-postavljene-dzamije-v-evropi-odkriti-na-rombonu-severno-od-bovca/401874

http://www.islamska-skupnost.si/novice/2016/08/dzamija-na-rombonu/

https://www.rtvslo.si/prva-svetovna-vojna/zgodbe-in-pricevanja/ko-je-bil-log-pod-mangartom-multikulturna-vas-z-dzamijo-v-srediscu/372602

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ales501. 10. 2018 18:24:40

The mosque is of open type up there, below the Italians destroyed it out of fear, they were afraid of them like the devil of the cross, right under the summit you can't miss it.

ales501. 10. 2018 18:25:37

Up there they couldn't because they never reached the summit to conquer it or they overlooked it, nasmeh

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piotr1. 10. 2018 18:26:05

But Bosniaks at Log pod Mangart during the First World War built a quite nice mosque. nasmeh

ales501. 10. 2018 18:29:39

and up there directly in the shooting trench, but it was an emergency one so they could pray when Italians weren't shelling those huge grenades and mines on Rombon summit, that's why so much stone piled.

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raubšic1. 10. 2018 19:10:09

Well yeah, then every pile of stones can be a mosque. Even more if Mužinec thinks so. Let it be your way.

ales502. 10. 2018 15:28:32

A little knowledge of northern Primorska history wouldn't hurt, nasmeh

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bagi3. 10. 2018 12:46:22

This time after a long time again from the upper station of the Kanin cable car. It only runs on weekends until October 14th with the first ride from 8 a.m. onwards

We set the traverse to Rombon via both Črneli, in between hiked Bandera too and descended to Bovec via the marked path past Čukla. The path is panoramic, ideal for cooler days, just wisely consider its length nasmeh

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On the entire traverse I couldn't shake the impression that this is becoming an unmarked path. The marks are mostly extremely poorly visible, probably haven't been repainted for decades. This is especially a problem on rocky sections where the path's course is often not well discernible. For locals definitely nothing special, others especially foreigners can have more trouble. Our maps are by no means a reflection of the actual situation in these areas as in many other places.

Prevala saddle. The path to here has been largely renewed, markings solid.

Prestreljenik with *family *via ferrata to its window. But the via ferrata despite its name is not a walk.

In memory and reminder of events from World War II

On the path to Rombon we also took both Črnelas

One of many remnants of military nests stuck to the slopes

Velika Bavha on the Italian side of Kaninsko pogorje with caving bivouac at the saddle. This type of bivouac uses asbestos for insulation.

Markings and junction signs are, mildly put, poor. Maps or markings will need to be remade.

Rombon, mountain with a sad past. Fierce battles of a senseless war took place here.

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ločanka4. 10. 2018 07:20:01

bagi, nice tour you did nasmeh

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I fully agree with your last thought that something needs to be done about marked paths that are poorly recognizable in nature. Also the Bohinj areas around Triglav are a problem in this regard. This summer alone on one tour foreigners asked me twice for the way at Veliko polje and above Malo polje with a map in hand. They simply didn't know where they were and where the real path goes. Many senseless rescues would be unnecessary if the marked paths on maps matched the paths on the ground.
True, it's no problem for those who have hiked before, the problem is for first-timers.
Foreigners mainly look for marked paths only. Of course, if they don't find them, they end up on pathless terrain.

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bagi4. 10. 2018 13:49:36

@ločanka ... true. The described traverse to Rombon is not the only black sheep. There have already been quite a few posts on the topic of neglect of marked paths, or lack of visible marks and signs. I've walked a lot and fully agree.

The times of *volunteer* markacists are obviously over and it's up to PZS to regulate this properly. Not everyone goes to the most visited peaks where markings are usually no problem. Maps mark many more things that are then far from reality. Even the newest maps are no exception. As I wrote ... locals have no problems, those do who are there for the first time on a path. Especially foreigners who are more and more. And I don't mean migrants velik nasmeh

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Of course there are bright exceptions. Even on lesser known paths there are excellent markings and full praise to those markacists nasmeh

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Gorazd G5. 10. 2018 10:02:12

On the newer maps that Emil mentions, on the back there is also a request to report deficiencies and an address where map users (hikers, mountaineers, alpinists, scramblers and all others) can send their suggestions and possible shortcomings on the maps.
Welcome. mežikanje

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djimuzl5. 10. 2018 10:36:51

There is also the possibility that some paths are deliberately left to time - as has happened in the past... This is influenced by the interests of numerous "social" groups, mountaineering associations are just one type of the mentioned factors...

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julius5. 10. 2018 11:38:15

Gorazd G.
I've been warning those responsible for paths for years that maps are only conditionally usable because they only print reprints which are mostly only conditionally usable. Only for experts, for crowds of foreign hikers they are really misleading. Check GRZS statistics and convince yourself.
Warnings for mountaineering paths also fall on deaf ears.
As for Bovec area, just this.
The last one who renewed paths in Kanin area was unfortunately the late Igor Zlodej ten years ago when he was president of PD Bovec and also a path marker.
Today the president of PD Bovec is a mountain guide and it's in his business interest that paths are so poorly maintained.
As for PZS, I won't waste words because it's in the phase of dying out.

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ljubitelj gora24. 03. 2019 17:25:43

Started at Zavrzelno and up towards Čukla but bypassed it and stopped on the way back. Snow was frozen in the morning, in the gully first hard then some powder and further up the gully hard again. There was slab on right and left, in between climbed to Rombon ridge. On the way up it avalanched a few times but no danger. At the top no wind with good views. Soon descended for safety, snow softened quickly and avalanched a few times again. Descended the gully where conditions hadn't changed and to Čukla top where I dried and rested. Later descended still on snow but it soon ran out completely, lower it was real summer, nice there above Bovec.