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Slovenian - ignorance or negligence?

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Kriška4. 08. 2010 19:39:45
Probably I'll face a bunch of "attacks" like "this isn't a grammar corner", but I'll risk this note anyway, since this "little thing" bothers me a lot.

Namely, more and more often (almost as a rule) comment writers use phrases like: from Triglav, from Kredarica, from the wall ... etc.

Can you maybe vividly imagine breaking out e.g. from Triglav (which of course in Slovenian means you're deep inside the mountain mass and coming through the rocks to the surface)? That might be possible in some sci-fi movie, but not in everyday life.

I know it's too much to expect people on countless forums to fully follow grammar and spelling in their posts, but at least some respect for our language could be shown by not ridiculing it.
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ljubitelj gora4. 08. 2010 20:04:33
Problem is in EDIT function, every other forum has option to edit your comment, only hribi.net doesn't have it.
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aonuk14. 08. 2010 20:10:56
Surely a Slovenian teacher, I suggest you go to the mountains for some fresh air.
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VanSims4. 08. 2010 20:25:54
He he. Once I sent dad an SMS: Greeting from Svinjaki! Later he calls me and says: Well pig already come out of pigsty!
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jprim4. 08. 2010 20:26:20
Jože, wow, didn't learn lowercase alphabet in school either... I know you're provoking with this writing and dialect, honestly, I don't feel like reading,... though you wanted to say something smart.

And if Kriška points out errors, I'm also among those who sometimes point them out, and I think there's nothing wrong with that, since we are Slovenians - written with a capital S, as some even write it with a small s.
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jprim4. 08. 2010 20:27:47
I'm correcting myself a little.velik nasmeh
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wolphgang4. 08. 2010 20:34:13
No Kriška, now you sadly see what kind of people go to the mountains too. These are those who go up only because of others (ordinary boors). Not like some men with a capital letter. e.g. Kugy, Tuma, Aljaž...
God have mercy on them (but not the latter)
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BT884. 08. 2010 21:00:20
I really like this site but such comments get on my ....jezik Kriška here we people just wanna talk a bit about the situation on the path conditions, food, gear and important that we understand each other now butjezik you and your
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FLEKSARCA4. 08. 2010 22:28:39
Caring for preserving the beautiful Slovenian word is not too much, but don't kill folks on forums now. Kriška, how many fives, or rather ones have fallen this year?mežikanje
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Nosko4. 08. 2010 23:58:41
how much free time you have bohohoh velik nasmeh
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heinz5. 08. 2010 06:32:18
Under the above questioning title, let me add that for me (probably for some others too) the most annoying fact in this regard is that some individuals comment in a style like e.g.: today in Croatian, tomorrow in Slovenian (or mixed), then again in Croatian etc. It seems that the specific person more or less masters Slovenian, but at least occasionally doesn't find it worth using, while always getting answers to their questions. Not only that, they get them in Slovenian.
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majdicst5. 08. 2010 08:59:17
Maybe I too belong to that "uptight" generation that still tries to use more or less "nice" literary language, but it doesn't bother me if someone writes in dialect or phonetically. I just don't read those comments because it takes too much time to figure out what the writer meant.jezik

Of course this doesn't apply only to this forum, but to all. I think it's senseless to argue about language issues when we have so many other topics, especially those for which we follow the forum at all and occasionally contribute something.nasmeh

I admit though that it bothers me when a heated debate develops on this topic, in which supporters of one and the other side wildly "in the trenches" defend their position. Everyone has the right to advocate their stance, but not the right to attack the other who perhaps disagrees.velik nasmeh

I fully agree with the mountain lover that the "edit" function is missing. Because of its absence, I've sometimes rewritten the whole post because I couldn't fix errors I overlooked on review.zadrega
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Volk5. 08. 2010 20:28:00
I fully agree with Kriška.

On the other hand, I also understand the youth, which I somehow feel sorry for (of course those who really enjoy deliberate sloppiness). I hope they'll enjoy reading their own words in old age. velik nasmeh

Good luck.
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strelec19546. 08. 2010 07:32:15
Yeah, where are those times when we "scribbled" the skyjezik
today kids more and more use "write as you speak"zavijanje z očmi
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clo7. 08. 2010 13:46:07
Due to bad forecast after a short tour there's still some time to browse the forum. And since Jože reminded me of this Slovenian topic last time, today I pop in here a bit. Funny, a topic that says a lot about us. (considering I'm by profession a bit inclined to such research). But on this I must properly write a response to the started topic. In the first message Kriška writes that we carelessly use Slovenian when we also write FROM the wall. Grammatically I see nothing wrong with using the preposition "from" the wall, since usually from or with/from is used according to the preposition on/ or in (when we use to the sea, we say then from the sea, when we use preposition in then we use with/from later. (e.g. they entered the wall - checked in SSKJ, so we can also use from the wall). Just in passing...
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jprim7. 08. 2010 14:13:43
... if you were on Triglav, you can't come from it.mežikanje
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jprim7. 08. 2010 14:17:41
... if you go to ...even Triglavjezik, you can crawl out of ...nasmeh
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jprim7. 08. 2010 15:10:48
Adding to this, 'iz stene' is correct, and I didn't browse SSKJ, just thought logically.
Cheers!
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JusAvgustin7. 08. 2010 16:25:43
what are you guys messing around with...zmeden
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zooja20. 08. 2010 19:35:32
it's true! -geolog79-...mežikanje
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turbo20. 08. 2010 19:47:07
To Triglav, from Triglav, under Triglav . . .
Then a guy comes to my home and says: but I'm from Triglav zmeden Insurance will need to be settled jezen
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