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viharnik24. 08. 2015 18:49:29

SamoK and Lepenatka, well said, for Dprapr I wouldn't put my hand in the fire, although he's interpreting based on terrain knowledge as a longtime mountaineer.
As said, due to huge visitation nowadays, mountaineering culture declining everywhere, erosion of rock sediments due to poor winters and big temperature swings, all this contributes in mountains to more caution and at least minimal self-protection with mountaineering gear. Detailed local conditions only a handful of frequent mountaineers know, so most can't and shouldn't rely only on their tips.

dprapr24. 08. 2015 19:18:41

Rok, seems to me you're all exaggerating a bit (me with posting here nasmeh

) with this friability and "sediment collapse" and similar. All that existed already when mountains were visited and before. Read some old PV articles and you'll see lots of similarities. Or ask someone who's been hiking mountains for half a century, like some here.
Only different is route visitation, which is good. Even better if more young people on these routes. No problem avoiding these peaks if we don't want risk falling rocks. Plenty less dangerous and less visited routes.

As for helmet, let people put it on where they think needed and don't nag them after trip. Sometimes you have to experience on your own skin. Probably all know it's protection from falling rocks and they don't wear it to make everyone here happy.

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viharnik24. 08. 2015 19:51:02

Nothing wrong exchanging opinions on forum even more often.
Falling rocks are general fact in mountains, but comparing frequency of rockfalls now and just decades ago, no comparison. Why? Because winters then looked snowy. Snow was thick, covered and encased walls until spring thaw. Thus water didn't go directly into rock and expand it on refreezing. That happens now with winter temp swings, rock not encased in ice or snow-covered.
Mountains are environment that elevates and ennobles spirit, but with general population growth, not only in mountains, there always are individuals who don't know how to behave on paths, in bivouacs, simply not taught or personal morals zero.
So I think care for at least minimal safety with gear, apart from external natural factors on mountain we can't influence or predict, we can improve. Thirty years ago only alpinists wore helmets, now I put it on more often myself, let people think what they want.

SamoK24. 08. 2015 19:55:12

Viharnik, I assure you, decades ago rocks flew just the same as today.

geppo24. 08. 2015 20:09:47

Best to open this topic in General talk and leave Mrzla g. in peace.
Never had helmet crossing to Matkov kot. Not writing this so you don't use it....
lp

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viharnik24. 08. 2015 20:11:09

Also Slap Čedca, NW wall of Dovški Gamsovec, Razor, NW Pihavec, south Pipar in W. Julian Alps, part of Goličica and Peak near walls in Prisank... stood proudly then.
All these facts are best confirmed in practice by alpinists who are at home in the walls.

zvončnica25. 08. 2015 18:41:45

Morning promised a nice sunny day and from the Ledine hut I descended via Savinja saddle on the path to Okrešelj hut, but only to the junction and left to Mrzla gora, where my interesting perfect day started...
The path first started on a grassy trail, then transitioned to a rocky and sandy path and thus led us to the walls, where we geared up with helmets, stowed the poles and started scrambling. Mrzla gora is mysterious, justifiably not too visited, but beautiful and concentratedly demanding. Of course I had nice company in the walls, also first-timers like me that day. Together, slowly and carefully we reached the summit, the feelings that overwhelmed us were beautiful. After meditative soaking up the beauty from the top we descended carefully and slowly. Here mistakes are not allowed, so caution... nasmeh

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lino25. 08. 2015 19:07:29

Zvončnica, nice and interesting ascent with wonderful photographs. About the difficulty of Mrzla gora you nicely wrote in the last part of the post. "After meditative soaking up the beauty from the top we descended carefully and slowly. Mistakes are not allowed here, so carefully..."

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lepenatka25. 08. 2015 19:28:33

In the mountains we find kindred souls. Mrzla gora was a real paradise on Sunday for three pleasure seekers who met at Mrzli dol - Primorsko-Štajerska connection nasmeh

and together headed to this worthy mountain.
We spent a wonderful day climbing, photographing and in pleasant company.
Zvončnica, you nicely presented our joint outing and I'm glad we met. nasmeh

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zvončnica25. 08. 2015 20:13:57

lepenatka, I also enjoyed that unforgettable pleasurable day, I'm glad and full of yet another wonderful acquaintance - you two and the mountain we ascended with full respect and descended with even greater respect, this is our queen velik nasmeh

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panda26. 08. 2015 07:45:26

Congratulations to all for the successful ascent and descent from Cold Mountain. For me this mountain is the queen of KSA. nasmeh

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julya26. 08. 2015 13:52:14

Zvoncnica, super photos nasmeh

, especially you've captured the terrain very realistically... nice to relive memories. Good luck!

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garmont28. 09. 2015 19:59:58

Today with colleague starting in Belski Kočni.
First following "pikicam" to Krnička gora, then very annoying descent to Latvica and then to the summit of Cold Mountain.
Descent towards Okrešelj, but only to the col separating Cold Mountain from its neighbor. From there over the col pathless to the junction for Krnička gora, which is approx 500 vertical meters lower. Supposedly there's a hunters' path on this part, unfortunately we caught it only approx 100 meters before the junction for Krnička gora. mrk pogled

Weather so-so.
Regards

Probably this was written by the same painter who painted the path to the summit

Tormenting ascent towards the approach gully

There is quite a bit of scree in the first gully, it is easier in the second or third gully. All lead to the pikic.

At the summit of Mrzla gora there is frost and snow

We descended this valley towards Presteralšam

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KlemenD4. 10. 2015 18:57:01

If anyone heads to Cold Mountain from Matkov kot (and it's first time there, maybe even at night) it's good to know the direction sign is currently down. This info would have been useful to me today velik nasmeh

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dprapr24. 10. 2015 17:37:35

More than the sign, I was concerned that the car wouldn't bother the landowners hauling wood. nasmeh

As I've mentioned many times, when I need a day for the soul, I go to Matkov kot. I initially planned Matkova kopa but changed mind due to better view from Cold Mountain. On such a nice day as today, you see far... Even from low Cold Mountain, which wasn't cold at all today. Cold was only down in the valley where frost in shade lingered until my return from summit.
Snow shyly appeared above Škaf and gathered under Latvica. On the ridge sun melts it thoroughly.
Path without peculiarities, except three ripped out pitons on chimneys (don't bother much) and worn summit book. Still the same one I picked up last winter with the cross from snowy slope. Cold Mountain deserves some "official" new summit book since it has two marked paths. At Škaf new box with stamper. And empty Coke bottle stuck behind direction sign that someone kept...

Collapse under Škaf... better in winter.

Firbci on the ridge, where one arrives from Hudega praska.

I always gladly return here to the mountains.

Snow is only slowly whitening the mountains.

On the ridge, view towards Krofička, Ojstrica, Planjava...

The northern slope is already quite snowy.

Worn-out logbook... we are signing on the title page already.

Behind Velika planina already a white sea.

Matkova kopa with its colors today really beckoned...

Well-kept meadow. The path now runs along the right side of the meadow and no longer across it.

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lino24. 10. 2015 18:27:59

Dprapr, wonderful shots from the demanding path to Cold Mountain.

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lijaneja24. 10. 2015 19:23:54

Drago, as always - wonderful.

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rok.si31. 10. 2015 19:36:04

Beautiful autumn day was today and I spent it on a circular tour Matkov kot-Mrzla gora-Okrešelj-Logarska dolina-Matkov kot. No more snow on the path, but golden larches are still there nasmeh

But it's already almost November - in the shade it's already cold and frozen, hard scree slopes.

Under Latvica I admired a herd of chamois (probably the same as on dprapr's picture), which moved nicely one after another from Hudi prasek towards Krnička gora and triggered whole cannonades of stones. I counted as many as 24!

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Domch6. 11. 2015 11:21:06

On Wednesday 4.11.2015 first time on Mrzla gora. Ravenska Kočna-Slovenska-Koča na Ledinah-Jezersko sedlo-Savinjsko sedlo-Mrzli dol-Mrzla gora-Mrzli dol-Savinjsko sedlo-Jezersko sedlo-Ledinski vrh-Koča na Ledinah-Slovenska-Ravenska Kočna. Super tour in beautiful and warm weather. We were alone at the parking lot, on the path met only 4 hikers, herds of chamois and jackdaws. Main part of the path is dry and snow-free, exception is Mrzli dol, where we crossed 2 or 3 southern snow patches. The path is not as scary and horrific as I expected. It deserves deep respect and admiration. It's a very nice panoramic and boldly laid out path, more fixed protection than expected, the upper part is interesting scrambling over slabs. Exposure is quite significant at 3-4 places, but one gets used to it and passes them without protection. Descent is a bit more demanding. At the top it was over 10 degrees, two jackdaws kept us company. Views fantastic. Summit logbook full, cross nicely fixed in place. The path convinced me it's still worth visiting.