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| Guest13. 11. 2007 09:46:56 |
Last week I was on Veliki Draški vrh. The trail is mostly dry. Views from the top fantastic, Triglav is practically in the palm. Maybe a small marker wouldn't be amiss so you don't go too far around. Also, given I meet tons of foreigners in the mountains, the Triglav marker could at least be more magnificent, not such a miserable plaque. Most occasional hikers don't even know which mountains they're looking at e.g. from Studorski pass. Some sign really wouldn't spoil the otherwise wonderful nature and views. Lp, Tadeja
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| mukica13. 11. 2007 12:56:56 |
It seems to me there are quite a lot of signs. Foreigners usually buy a map, they have a special one from which they navigate very well. Even our hikers wouldn't hurt to have maps and other aids for hikes-tours. In summer it happened to me that someone under Tosec was asking for Debelo pač, 
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| Guest13. 11. 2007 13:22:39 |
I didn't mean there aren't any, but specifically at Studorski preval - see picture, on the damn old sign Rudno polje and Lipanca are written. As far as I know, further is also Vodnikov dom, direction Triglav, but nowhere it says that. If you know what models walk our mountains, there should be a nice sign there with Triglav. Foreigners come to us often just for Triglav, that's our pride. Yes it writes on the map, but many don't have these maps, because they come for one or two days to us and further. Yeah, that's how it is. Lp, Tadeja 
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| iztok13. 11. 2007 14:31:15 |
I completely agree with mukica with the addition that the map should also apply to domestic visitors
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| Guest13. 11. 2007 14:56:56 |
Anyone who sets out to the mountains should first check the map about the goal they want to visit, paths leading to that goal and times needed for summit ascent and descent, huts along the way...
Additionally acquire the path difficulty. Based on this data, then visit the goal you set. The map should always be in the backpack.
However unfortunately there are also those who don't follow these basic rules and complications and wrong decisions can quickly arise....
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| Guest13. 11. 2007 15:37:21 |
Actually I just wanted to say that the path to Triglav on the most crowded route is marked with very poor plaques or not at all. Of course I agree you have to check everything beforehand, have a map etc., but the fact is there are still and every year more people in the mountains who don't prepare for tours, especially here one to two-day foreigners who come to conquer daddy. But I think the path to Triglav from this side could be better marked or marked at all. Here I won't back down. Tadeja
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| Guest13. 11. 2007 18:07:02 |
I wrote how it is in general, but I agree that the markers at Studorski pass are poor. But that's the work of the blazers who maintain that part of the trail. Hope they read it and you'll be surprised on the next visit probably next year .
I also agree that this trail is the easiest and most crowded for visiting Triglav, although on the way there are many nicer and less visited peaks with beautiful views and especially a lot of peace.
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| Guest14. 11. 2007 12:06:07 |
I'm a blazer too, I don't agree that the trail at Studorski pass is poorly marked. It can't be, every single rock marked. Lp Franc
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| Guest14. 11. 2007 13:52:43 |
Franci don't get mad. What would we do without your volunteer work. But it's like this, some need a bit more markers, some prefer to go where you blazers haven't been yet and I hope it stays that way for a while.
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| Guest14. 11. 2007 14:19:09 |
This conversation is going completely off track. Yes, some need a bit less, some a bit more signs. But it was just about, I still claim, the miserable plaque (see picture!!!), on which not even with a word is the Triglav direction indicated, but only Lipanca and Rudno polje. Otherwise the work of blazers is in my opinion only praiseworthy, really..
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| danilc15. 11. 2007 08:53:43 |
There are so many markers that even goats use them!
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| mukica15. 11. 2007 09:05:23 |
That miserable plaque is a couple of meters off the trail and marks a side path from the trail to Triglav, which is indicated much earlier
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| Guest15. 11. 2007 12:19:58 |
I saw that sign too and it's probably not quite OK, and I agree with Tadeja on almost everything. But what bothers me is that signs are really well marked and large, and nice,... but what when walking time is often missing or how much time you need to get there. Time is no obstacle for me, but foreigners often ask me on the trail "How much more, How much time still,.... lp,Vanja
ps,Danilc nice pics
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| Guest15. 11. 2007 13:31:51 |
If we come from Jezerc to Studorki pass, there are four options ahead:
1. Ablanca - 95% of those not intending to go to that peak will turn back very soon.
2. Tosc - most trodden and probably safest trail
3. Veliki Draški vrh - after a few meters of scree and end of marked trail they'll realize they're not going right and turn back
4. marked trail leading to saddle between both Draški peaks and the only chance to miss the path.
But I agree that this sign is really more sad and calls for replacement.
If I'm not mistaken there's a rock at the top of the ridge with a marker or even indicated direction to continue.
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| mony15. 11. 2007 17:20:34 |
I still claim it's not about markers but thin, battered plaques. The trail to Studor itself is nicely marked with blazes. Plaques, plaques. And Vanja is right too, saying that times could be marked too, not every 5 min, but at least every 2 hours, in my opinion. Caw, Tadeja
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| Guest15. 11. 2007 19:58:02 |
What plaques, what signs, what times. From your writing it's nicely visible that you know all that even without the aforementioned marks . So why put up signs and paint even more markings?. Because of foreigners? Are paths e.g. in Italy better marked?
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| Guest15. 11. 2007 20:05:12 |
Why always follow foreign examples. Let's be better than them.
Being good means being one step ahead of the competition
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| Guest15. 11. 2007 23:29:45 |
You know what Tadeja, be glad you were lying alone on Great Draški vrh, while we suffered at work. But we had a well-marked path home. Otherwise I agree with the last Guest. best regards Mirjam
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| Guest16. 11. 2007 06:10:32 |
Knowing one shepherd hut and one path doesn't mean we know the next hut or mountain in Slovenia. My opinion is that they could write the time next to it. When I was a few years ago with a group on the circular path around Blejska koča starting from Pokljuka it bothered me a bit that you don't know how much time you need, since in autumn the day ends much earlier and you don't know if it's one, two or three hours walk. Maybe mountain rescuers would have less work then as hikers could better judge how far they can go and how much time they have. best regards, Vanja
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| Guest16. 11. 2007 08:31:21 |
I fully agree with Vanja.
Mirjam - for lying on mountains you have to take time. Life flies by, waits for no one, so... Best regards, Tadeja
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| Guest16. 11. 2007 09:29:48 |
You weren't lying alone probably. Best regards Franc
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