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cemmac24. 11. 2020 13:34:36
Hi,
Currently I have a situation where I need to replace boots. Since I want to do some easier winter tour (with guide) I'd like something I can wear in summer too.

I looked at Planika Jalovec model - fairly stiff boot and sole, no auto crampons issue, if not high enough can still solve with gaiters..

Would that work? I wouldn't buy winter ones, since I won't hike much? I have other gear from relative.

Ideas like Viševnik, Kamniško sedlo, Vrh Korena, maybe Begunjščica...

Thanks
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Vlk24. 11. 2020 17:09:35
Alpina Lhotse. High, for semi-automatic crampons. I'm wearing my second pairnasmehnasmeh
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Krrokarr2. 12. 2020 11:23:01
I'm disappointed with Planika though.

Bought their most expensive model, and after a few trips the seam at the ankle ripped.

No problem, I thought; it happens... Probably a bad seam/material by chance.

Sent for warranty (store took without issue, agreed it's not normal, sent further), then after long wait I get the same boots back with a note from some "last expert" that warranty rejected because, ..... in summary - "I WALK WRONG" ...!!? zmeden

And I went for Planika just to support Slovenian company (if it still is?) ... Eternal altruist anyway.

Anyway .... Before with cheap Garmonts I "wrongly" walked 14 years (still have them for mowing grassmežikanje). And otherwise never had boots that fell apart after a few months. Most lasted at least 5 years.

In short .... Planika won't see me anymore.
Especially because of the attitude.
The epilogue was that I took those ripped boots to a shoemaker for under 3 euros to stitch, and now using them nicely for two years for easier trips, or where I don't want to ruin new La Sportivas.

If their "experts" had done at least that (less than 3-euro!!) seam repair (... even if membrane punctured; after all punctures are high up, so unless wading deep water, no issue), or used some other excuse, they probably wouldn't have upset me so much ...
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zokipoki2. 12. 2020 12:41:19
I have good experiences with Planika so far. I wear them everywhere and they fit my foot. I contacted the company only once when I needed new insoles for the boots. They sent me two pairs for free without questions.

That's my experience.
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ppegan2. 12. 2020 14:58:46
Planika hasn't been what it was for at least 15 years, sadly. I wore their boots 10 years ago, now I've been using Salewa for several years because they fit my foot super. With new boots I can go on all-day tour and know I won't get a single blister. I wear them out in one year, maybe a year and a half, then use for dog walks. Before Salewa I had constant blister issues, even in Planika boots.
I have such warranty experiences - with Salewa after few trips the sole peeled off at heel. Took boots back to store, claimed warranty and got new ones immediately, as it was obvious manufacturer defect. Just got a bad pair. Since I got new pair, didn't worry much nasmeh
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TamaraTP3. 12. 2020 10:05:08
Vik, don't bullshit (about Alpina Lhotse)! After first winter trip, ascent of gully to Vrtača, the rubber around the boot came off. I doubt your claim. Especially given your posts on this forum. zmeden
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djimuzl3. 12. 2020 10:17:43
I've been using Lhotse (only in winter) for six years, no problems.
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zokipoki3. 12. 2020 14:11:22
Everyone has different experiences with boots, which is great, different feet, different boots. nasmeh
3.12.20201
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Ki925. 12. 2020 07:19:43
Hello everyone. Given that shops are closed now or you can't try shoes, I'd ask for help here.
For winter (on snow) I got Alpina Nuptse size 42. My foot size is 42, so all shoes for normal use I wear +42.5 or 43. The shoe blistered me badly on first real tour, and prevented toe movement. Then I took insoles out and walked ok with sweat, but still got blister on toe.
Recommend buying shoe size 42.5 or 43?
Thanks, best regards
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dprapr25. 12. 2020 08:31:28
Try first with 42.5. You can still return them and take others. Now it's very easy. You pay only the postage for returning the shoes.
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Ki925. 12. 2020 12:27:56
How much larger realistically should the shoe be than the foot size?
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darinka425. 12. 2020 12:58:19
I always buy one size larger. Especially for downhill it's good.
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Janezs25. 12. 2020 13:05:02
You are all adults and should know how to buy gear for your own use based on usage. Sometimes when reading comments, I get the feeling that some, after a long time praising buying new gear, just ask to boast and chat a bit. If the shoe blistered you, find the cause why it happened; the blister location is also very important (front, back, sole, or side). The shoe must be big enough so that when going downhill we don't bang toes. It must also be tied firmly enough. So, for uphill walking, you can loosen the laces, but not so much that the foot "walks" too much in the shoe; otherwise, you'll get a blister on the heel. Shoe maintenance is also important. I grease every new footwear with beeswax, and I do it later as needed. It also happened to me in winter that I lost the sole (Mammut). In winter, don't leave wet shoes in the car so the leather freezes. Just like the shoe, socks are important too; I wear 8 pairs of Kilimanjaro. For long tours (hikes more than ten hours straight without a break), I also turn them, left to right foot and vice versa. These socks are very supportive, so I have the top edge cut with scissors; several times during the walk, I push the top edge down or up, otherwise a ring forms on the leg. So be attentive while walking what happens with the feet; when you feel something, act immediately, that way you'll reach the desired goal. I use about 5 to 8 pairs of footwear from different brands. I wear what I need that day; if I go for two days or more, then some footwear is in the accompanying car. For me, it's important that the shoe is as wide as possible in the front, size 46.5. For the sole not to slip on wet rock, we must know that not every Vibram works (plastic and rubber mix). Lp. (left foot is 5 mm bigger than right), so I always try only the left shoe.



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p1j4vk48. 03. 2021 14:54:07
Hello, I bought Alpina MID 690-Z2 shoes
https://www.alpinashop.si/p2-30-16301/pohodna-obutev/pohodna-obutev/prima-mid-690z2.
In the shop they were super. I preferred these because Tibet were too stiff for me. First wore them 14 days ago to Krim. Problem is that after a certain time (1h walk) both shin bones hurt extremely -> area where shoe ends. Fibula hurts more -> just above ankle. Barely reached the top. At top had to untie them and come back down completely loose. Thought not broken in and it would get better soon. Few days had light bruises. Saturday second time -> Polhograjska Grmada. Same story, reach top, bones on both legs hurt so much that have to completely untie shoe and swim in it. Only that way can descend. At car put on running sneakers and felt like new. Went to Sv. Lovrenc for ease. Nothing touches bone. Now bruises again. What am I doing wrong? Don't want to give up on shoes. Some say high ones don't suit me and must always wear only low ones. Should never hurt at all. Tie too tight so foot fixed inside? Thicker socks (now Alpina Titanium)? Will shoes break in? Thanks all
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Janezs11. 03. 2021 15:40:30
I don't know the shoe, if possible tie tightly on instep, ring or upper shoe part loosely tied, so that you don't feel pain. It would also help to grease the shoe a bit with wax so the upper edge is softer. Another solution is high, thick socks (shoe must be large enough).
Maybe your gait is not suitable for high boots either. With high boots the foot stays somewhat calmer in the ankle (less mobile) than with low boots. Try various things, also cut extra socks and just put the upper part of the socks additionally on the painful spot. You still have a long break-in period so the shoe adapts to your foot and the foot-pain adapts and slowly goes away.
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exwannabe11. 03. 2021 16:15:57
Many years ago I had a similar experience with another brand of shoes. Not as bad as you describe. It helped that at the beginning I never laced the shoes to the top, so skip the last or last two hooks. And second, for ascent never tighten the shoes "to the death" but relatively loosely and then tighten them more at the top for descent. Over time they will shape to your foot anyway.
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dprapr11. 03. 2021 17:31:20
“You still have a long break-in period so the shoe adapts to your foot and the foot-pain adapts and slowly goes away.”

That's world class.nasmeh
Throw them in the bin.
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sla11. 03. 2021 17:39:01
A few years ago I had the same problem. Then I took the boots to the shoemaker and told him to cut off the edge by 2 to 3 cm. Then the boots were usable until they fell apart velik nasmeh.
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Hribolaznik11. 03. 2021 22:40:37
Two myths need to be busted:
-- boots must be high, over the ankle. Not true at all. If you move fast and lightly, low boots are ideal. For light running downhill: low boots super. For heavy, slow walking downhill on the hill with heavy backpacks, high boots come into play;
-- boots must be comfortable. Not at all. We're not going on a 10-hour tour to be comfortable. Good quality high-mountain boots are anything but comfortable. They must be stiff enough not to tear on the sides against rocks and the sole must not bend, only then it withstands all those enormous pressures;

PS
If you've ever noticed pro alpinists, on the way up they wear comfortable low hiking boots, on the backpack they have hard high crampon boots hanging for rocks or snow....
If you've ever seen paragliders: they handle 3-thousanders in low hiking boots, down they descend with the parachute anyway...

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