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| asdf17. 07. 2024 10:17:47 |
I was there on 29.6. and then parking meter didn't work for anyone. Also problems with cards then. Maybe the issue is that the parking meter has poor connection too.
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| PUHI19. 07. 2024 09:13:15 |
Since I went to the Julians for three days, I'd have paid 75 euros for parking in Vrata. Given my pension, that's really usurious, so I went a bit by car, a bit by train, then by bus and finally by van to Vrata. I was lucky with connections and arrived at Pogačnikov dom at eight in the evening. Of course for accommodation for two nights upon reservation at home I had to pay 40% advance, the rest right upon arrival at the hut. Tired from all transports and loud foreigners, I went to sleep. In the morning I went further and in the afternoon turned to the valley, partly due to the prevalence of foreigners, partly due to disappointment because you have to pay everything in advance. From Vrata the same very friendly van driver as on the way up took me; he drives whole days, of course for a local entrepreneur and is in violation and tired. Where are the inspectors?! Then again bus, train, bus and my car, and I was home late in the evening. The trip was incredible in terms of logistics diversity, but a bitter disappointment remained. It consoles me that I had a discount on accommodation, which didn't achieve the purpose, since for one night I paid for two, of course also paid PZS membership. I think I will never again be a member of that association, and I will hardly go to the hills. PZS should support rescuing foreigners in slippers for free. Slovenes have apparently become unwanted in our hills. A period is coming again after a hundred years when only foreigners went to our mountains, of course with the help of our guides; you see that when you arrive in Vrata. Sad but true.
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| dprapr19. 07. 2024 10:32:23 |
More and more such sad posts. They criticized me when I mentioned a while ago we're returning to “old good times”. “Good” only for those who haven't experienced it.
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| mirank19. 07. 2024 11:48:59 |
With your post you captured practically all problems increasingly distancing us from mountaineering as we knew it. Usurious parking, prepayment in huts like with whores even if weather bad. PZS and guides we don't need, all superfluous and regarding the discount for hut stays as the only reason, it completely loses sense. Won't even talk about mixing with foreigners, but obviously their fleecing doesn't bother, rescue or transport guaranteed free
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| asdf19. 07. 2024 12:10:36 |
"and obviously their fleecing doesn't bother them"
Yeah, if you go to Triglav once, paying those 25 eur isn't such a big deal. If you hike in the mountains regularly and they want to fleece you at every step, it's different.
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| Koleraba19. 07. 2024 16:13:26 |
If someone has a hard time accepting that foreigners also hike in Slovenian mountains, then maybe it's really better to stay in the safe shelter of their home.
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| miri19. 07. 2024 16:51:23 |
Tons of hills and mountains where you meet neither local nor foreigner. It's not just height that satisfies our hearts.
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| dprapr19. 07. 2024 16:57:30 |
Yeah, that's what they want, elites leave our hills so they won't swarm us in valleys with their "Teslas". In the end they'll limit foreigners' movement too.
Good there are many beautiful hills in nearby Austria and Italy where prices are much more hiker-friendly.
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| djimuzl19. 07. 2024 18:03:10 |
Here a new economic model is successfully implemented - demand and cashing in. Without supply.
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| lino19. 07. 2024 20:44:52 |
Not as bad as some grumble. In this heat let foreigners sweat, we'll go in October and November when it's nicely cool.
The feeling of the golden reserve isn't bad either. Golden color mentioned. If the season flops by chance we're first patriots saving the season. That counts! 
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| tomo_kugy19. 07. 2024 23:33:32 |
@lino
In October and November you won't save anyone's season, as all huts (except rare exceptions like Komna) in high mountains close by the end of September. But they could easily stay open at least in October, maybe November. There would be fewer visits than in summer but more pleasant for visitors.
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| lino20. 07. 2024 10:30:38 |
Tomo, thanks for reply. Obviously I kicked my idea into fog. My proposal has more minuses than pluses. Thanks and good luck!
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| jprim20. 07. 2024 15:59:06 |
Yeah, yeah ... nice that you admit it.
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| nurmaln24. 07. 2024 19:49:43 |
Can regular visitors tell me how serious this reservation stuff on Kredarica is now?
In past I think slept on Kredarica
at least 15x (almost always without reservation), but not last three years.
See they have online booking system showing all booked to end of summer. How serious? If I bluff up on Friday, chance for bed without reservation?
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| Janez Seliškar25. 07. 2024 07:00:30 |
You might sleep under the open sky.
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| nurmaln25. 07. 2024 09:38:26 |
Fine, but that wasn't my question. If I went alone maybe it'd still be acceptable, but taking the kid along not so much.
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| Maemi25. 07. 2024 09:48:16 |
During the week you can get a place to sleep, weekends booked in advance, they have a reservation book.
Best to call and ask what the situation is.
Skip such silly answers like the previous one wrote, waste of energy.
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| Janez Seliškar25. 07. 2024 09:48:59 |
Don't know how else to tell you, without reservation you'll sleep under the open sky.
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| Janez Seliškar25. 07. 2024 09:53:14 |
"Maemi", you're obviously not used to order in reservation system use. You rely on the system, if it works great, if not somehow. Complete irresponsibility of individuals.
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| Daaam25. 07. 2024 10:38:47 |
In theory they shouldn't accept reservations for all beds in advance. There should be a certain % available for "drop-ins". In the worst case they at least put you on a bench or floor. Of course they're not happy but that's how it is. If they actually deny you a roof over your head then you can happily shit on the doorstep in front of the entrance. Somehow bivouac (knock at the weather guys maybe) repeat in the morning and of course never return. #myopinion ..it's sad how our high-mountain huts over 2000m and around Vršič have messed up in the last 10-15 years. I used to happily stop and overnight in the high mountains, now I almost deliberately avoid them. Thank God there are at least some very pleasant stops in the mid-mountains.
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