Velesa, horrible!!
I go to Vremščica many times and each time more disappointed.
When I was there end of October, fine Italians were crashing through bushes and literally knocking down every mushroom under their feet.
They didn't even clean them, just pulled and hop into baskets, bags, backpacks.
Their dogs were howling, barking, growling over each other

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There were some Slovenian dogs too, but on leash!!
At the top of Vremščica they were passing sticks, their kids had some spears and threw them literally everywhere!!
Our group already warned the first mushroom group, then nicely told them to leash the dogs, and at the top I lost it. Literally!!
They behave really like pigs.
Don't even talk about how those fine ladies were breaking branches, tearing bushes, pulling something that was probably some herb?!
On the way back I looked more at the other hills and ridges.
Maybe more than ten camping vans. They drove straight through bushes, pastures,... to their spot.
And now I wonder; who harms nature more
violent Italians
or
wind turbines.
Maybe all those environmentalists should go up there some Sunday.
About driving cars up there, honking, no thanks!