Toll booths on Vršič and in Vrata
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| bongo19. 03. 2024 19:47:29 |
Maxi delusions of all involved. For studying the barrier system operation they will surely spend millions (no idea what they want and what with those going up for hiking/climbing), at PZS just filing nails and looking at the sky.
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| Daaam19. 03. 2024 20:34:36 |
If it's only about preserving nature then parking free, only the number of spots limited
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| Klinar2719. 03. 2024 22:46:13 |
Let them reduce the number of parking spots. At 4 a.m. still no crowd. 
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| DVas20. 03. 2024 07:27:46 |
Still those few hillocks around Vršič are missing for me, then adios. Never liked crowding there.
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| Po Hodnik20. 03. 2024 11:58:26 |
We'll hike from Tamar over Grlo 
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| turbo20. 03. 2024 12:31:01 |
Absolutely, especially when you won't even be allowed to Planica by car anymore and park in Rateče
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| miri20. 03. 2024 16:42:28 |
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| turbo21. 03. 2024 13:39:59 |
Olala, idea to die for. New transversal or bypass, best under PZS. Name it "From ramp to ramp" in basic and extended version. Basic has ramps in known valleys, stamp at each ramp, extended adds less visited valley with ramp before. Whoever collects all stamps gets plaque, badge and 20% discount on all mountain trailhead parkings for a year. Booklets, map and instructions financed from parking fees.
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| DVas21. 03. 2024 14:59:39 |
And can the badge be shaped like a mini ramp? Then I would reeeally happily go for it.
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| VanSims21. 03. 2024 15:29:08 |
"If it's just about preserving nature then parking will be free, only number of spots limited"
Similar with radars. Here and in Austria they are everywhere.
Last year I drove in France and don't remember seeing any in villages. On main roads yes (and outside villages and highways), but not on side roads and small villages. There they nicely put speed bumps, islands in middle, zigzag side barriers, spread parking zigzag so practically you can't drive over 60.
So you see whose priority is fining, whose is traffic safety.
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| VanSims21. 03. 2024 15:29:12 |
"If it's just about preserving nature then parking will be free, only number of spots limited"
Similar with radars. Here and in Austria they are everywhere.
Last year I drove in France and don't remember seeing any in villages. On main roads yes (and outside villages and highways), but not on side roads and small villages. There they nicely put speed bumps, islands in middle, zigzag side barriers, spread parking zigzag so practically you can't drive over 60.
So you see whose priority is fining, whose is traffic safety.
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| and121. 03. 2024 20:42:49 |
92 spots? On Vršič there are 3 huts, when foreigners fill them in summer season, parking spots will be full too.
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| mado14. 05. 2024 13:00:36 |
Has parking fee started in Vrata valley?  How much per day?
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| jprim14. 05. 2024 20:10:39 |
@mojcula
I think the same as you, you've written everything that's true. I completely agree with you.
Indeed Austrians and Italians have solved these problems well.
We are just Slovenians ...
LP!
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| mirank14. 05. 2024 21:37:35 |
I don't know about Austria, but in Italy I only paid 3 € for two days at the parking at Kreutzempass. Everything else is not chargeable, although there were occasionally roads of Vršič rank in between.
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| jprim14. 05. 2024 21:44:22 |
So mirank you only hike on such trails where there are no paid parkings or even use of private forest road . In Austria for example, (a few years ago) we got a key at a private hut, paid 5 euros to open the barrier. I could list more, but I won't, because we discussed this a while ago.
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| turbo15. 05. 2024 05:50:38 |
In the Carnic Alps there are no barriers and nothing is paid anywhere. Exception is some valley in the Friulian Dolomites, the prealpine world of the Carnians. Dolomites are another story, but even there it's free in many places.
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jprim,
don't tell me you have problems because you're Slovenian Who would think you have parking problems because of nationality
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| jprim15. 05. 2024 09:43:20 |
@turbo
I'm not talking about parking, but in this case it was about using the forest road, by which you could drive a bit higher. From the owners of that road you could get the key to open the barrier. A few years ago we paid 5 euros.
Maybe now you understand what I wrote.
LP!
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