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Rinke - Skuta

azuri2. 07. 2010 13:45:26

Dear;
I'm interested in whether it's possible to combine the route:
- Rinka waterfall
- Okrešelj hut
- Koroška Rinka
- Kranjska Rinka
- Skuta
- Turska gora
- Turski žleb and back to the valley,
thanks in advance for the answers.
Regards

gregcs12. 07. 2010 13:58:17

The ridge between Kranjska Rinka and Skuta contains climbing sections up to III degree (unmarked, unsecured of course). So if you're not a climber, you'll need to make a detour here.

panda2. 07. 2010 14:05:53

(6 hours) From Križ to Kranjska Rinka about half an hour. Down to the transversal path junction about half an hour, then if fast 1 hour and a quarter to Skuta, back the same path to Turski žleb and down to Okrešelj. You can count on about 11 hours of walking.... if fast, less. LP nasmeh

azuri2. 07. 2010 23:59:25

Thanks to both for the answers, first option absolutely out, so second one is feasible and if I understood Panda correctly, from Kranjska Rinka you can descend to the connection with Skuta, which is of course marked and blazed?
Thanks again.
Regards nasmeh

panda3. 07. 2010 08:23:07

Yes. You reach the junction of the transversal that leads to Skuta-Turska gora. Go boldly. Last year I crossed the Kamnik Alps in three days. First day afternoon to Kokrško sedlo and sleep in Cojzova hut. Morning to Grintovec, then over Mlinarsko sedlo and Dolg hrbet to Skuta to Turska gora and Kotličeva to Kamnik saddle and descent (10 hours unhurried walking). Follows Planjava, Babe, Ojstrica, Kocbekov dom - south and return over Presedljaj saddle to Kamniška Bela to the car (9 hours walking). Although last year on Aug 5 it was scorching heat, I enjoyed it, as the weather forecast those days was phenomenal, no thunderstorms for 10 days. LP

nata247. 07. 2010 06:00:37

So, no need to go over Križ again when descending from Kr. Rinka to reach Skuta? And snow?

panda7. 07. 2010 09:13:15

No, you descend directly down (it's marked and visible)....during the descent over the scree you reach a junction (left to Križ), continue straight down to the next junction at the top of Mala Rinke......and so on down. You can't miss it, at the junction left to Skuta (right Turska gora).

And a well-meaning piece of advice. The path to Rinke is so well described in the guidebook from different directions that there's no way, after reading and viewing the pictures, that one can't imagine how difficult it is (if one has of course ever hiked in the mountains). I'm an average mountaineer and these path descriptions suffice for me to decide where to go based on my abilities. All the snow up here in the Malih Podov area is passable with a certain degree of caution (with trekking poles or an ice axe), otherwise people simply wouldn't be hiking yet. Check some forum posts about Skuta and look at the pictures, and you'll see it's not too bad. For safety (if you're too scared or don't trust yourself) wait another 14 days, there definitely won't be more snow on the paths at the Podih. LP nasmeh

panda7. 07. 2010 09:59:01

I made one mistake. Below at the junction of the Slovenian transversal: left Turska gora and right Skuta. Sorry. LP nasmeh

nata247. 07. 2010 12:01:51

Thanks for the answer. I plan to go from Jezersko (cable car) over Ledine first to Rinke, then to Skuta and over Dolgi hrbet via Mlinarsko sedlo and Češka koča back down. Last Saturday I was on Velika Baba, Ledinski vrh and Storžek and there was no more snow on the path, those mountains are higher and snow was still visible.

panda7. 07. 2010 12:34:35

Your decision. My personal judgment is that crossing Dolgi hrbet in this direction Skuta-Dolgi Hrbet is more "annoying" than in the opposite direction.

I would do the opposite: up via Mlinarsko sedlo-Dolgi hrbet-Skuta-Križ-Ledine (Kranjska koča)-starting point. The decision is certainly yours. LP nasmeh

stanko17. 07. 2010 12:39:46

And how many hours of walking is that?

merkur7. 07. 2010 13:00:13

I don't know if it's enough to consider only the "annoyance" of Dolgi Hrbet in direction Skuta-Mlinarsko sedlo. Namely, in the direction you advocate, Panda, the mountaineer faces descent from Križ to Ledine, which doesn't seem quite easy to me. But probably you've already tried the descent from Križ down to compare the mentioned paths (Križ-Ledine, Skuta-Dolgi Hrbet)?!

gregcs17. 07. 2010 13:38:47

Descent from Križ is harder than the ridge from Kočna to Skuta. The ridge is much better secured, and the rock is more compact too. The via ferrata from Križ to Ledine is pure ruin.

panda7. 07. 2010 14:41:55

First: The descent from Križ to Ledine is definitely demanding. I'd rather use this route than descent to Mrzli dol.
Second: From Kočna to Skuta there are quite a few different "concepts". From Kočna to Skuta you go over Dolška škrbina via Špremova pot to Mlinarsko sedlo. Here you decide whether to cross over Dolgi hrbet or under it to Skuta.
Third: I didn't plan the tour but nata24. I'd definitely rate it as very ambitious with approx 9-10 hours (of which 4 hours scrambling).

Everyone decides for themselves. Been to Križ from both Mrzli dol and Ledine (up and down).
Regards nasmeh

merkur7. 07. 2010 16:26:33

I don't know why mix Kočna on one side and Mrzli dol on the other into it, but certainly everyone decides for themselves, and it also holds that there's some "minimal moral responsibility" on the one sharing advice.

By the way, nata24, whatever you decide, take a self-belay kit and if you doubt your skills along the way, avoid Dolgi hrbet; you can hardly miss Križ on such a planned route.

nata247. 07. 2010 16:41:52

I was already on Dolgi hrbet last year from Češka koča via Mlinarsko sedlo and returned the same way. No problem.

merkur7. 07. 2010 16:58:47

This info seems important to me. You know a nice part of the route so you know what to expect in the other part (in the other part if you stick to your plan), which makes sense. Descent from Rinke down below Skuta is not demanding technically (nor orientation-wise), both ascents to Križ and Skuta are, as usual, easier upwards than downwards. Good luck!

nata247. 07. 2010 22:26:04

Thanks everyone for the advice, I'll report how it went. As many beautiful moments in the mountains as possible. Best, Nataša

nata248. 07. 2010 18:42:42

One more question since I didn't find a concrete answer on the forum. Is the path through Žrelo to Ledine normally passable so I wouldn't go via Slovenska pot again this week. Also, when descending from Mlinarsko sedlo to Češka koča, when you step out of the wall, is there anything tricky with snow? Best, Nataša

nata2410. 07. 2010 14:20:59

Success! Jezersko - through Žrelo to Ledine - Koroška Rinka - Kranjska Rinka - Skuta - Štruca - Dolgi hrbet, added Grintovec too because nice weather and energy, then from Mlinarsko sedlo to Češka koča and back down. No snow problem as it's soft, but a couple snowfields below Skuta and at wall exit to Češka koča, and scree before Žrelo. Now rest. Best, Nataša