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LidijaJesih15. 04. 2012 19:05:04
Hasn't anyone given a nice word to this corner yet? That's why I'm opening a new thread. Subtitle could be from Lipa to Žovneško Lake. So: a group of hikers from PD Medvode today despite bad forecast firmly stepped from Lipa saddle (saddle between Menina planina and Dobroveljska planota above Vransko) and via highest peak named Tolsti vrh (1077) via Dom na Čreti descended to the other side, to Žovnek castle and Žovneško Lake. Not so demanding by elevation difference, but quite long, it wasn't less than 15 km. We managed to hike 7 hours without rain soaking us. Only on Trojanah it decided to rinse the road a bit, but then we were already on the bus with krofi. It deprived us a bit of views, but not monuments. Haven't passed so many churches and WWII memorials for a long time, interesting that as some sort of call for reconciliation they often stand together. Individual descriptions you find also on this website, we compiled three: Lipa-Tolsti vrh (Dobrovlje), Žovneško jezero-Dom na Čreti and Dom na Čreti-Tolsti vrh (Dobrovlje): All excellently marked, excursion ideal for today. Only guys after beer in hut complained they took those small bladders with thembig grin, otherwise day passed quite sunny.
Čreta At Lipa saddle. Today there was no silence here at all.1
Čreta Church of St. Gervasius and Protasius (???), first on the path2
Čreta and that second church, St. Jošt3
Čreta Highest peak today, Tolsti vrh4
Čreta Viewpoint with a view of Vransko and Zasavsko hribovje. Beyond are Čemšeniška planina and Mrzlica.5
Čreta This is also nearby.6
Čreta view towards Dom na Čreti7
Čreta but before that you have to pass by a small church8
Čreta this one knows how to enjoy. And at the pond with goldfish, falot. :)9
Čreta praise PD, well marked10
Čreta these birches are so beautiful that you have to look at them11
Čreta And another church by the path, Holy Mother of God. As far as I'm concerned, I arrived home immaculate.12
Čreta you can see the photo from the front on the PD Medvode website. :))13
Čreta towards Žovnek castle14
Čreta beautiful linden tree15
Čreta Žovnek Castle is being renovated16
Čreta gatekeeper. Ingenious17
Čreta view from the ramparts to Žovneško, probably also Braslovško lake18
Čreta caught the official PD photographer19
Čreta A bit more green and home.20
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savinjcan6515. 04. 2012 19:21:33
At the second church, Sv. Jošt, I hope you looked inside the church (key is at the farmhouse), as there are frescoes from the times of the Celje counts.

best regards
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geppo15. 04. 2012 19:43:39
Nicely written and pictorially added. One remark: Žovneško jezero is the one in your photo, Braslovško I'll attach.
Both belong to the municipality Braslovče. They are quite far apart, though both lakes are under Dobrovlje.
Regards
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velkavrh16. 04. 2012 05:25:58
Lidija, extremely praiseworthy, this proves you don't have to go to Jalovec or Triglav to have a nice day. So many churches even I haven't seen on one hike. About Jošt I haven't heard in this area either. I need to persuade someone to go with me to this beautiful corner.
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Bbrina16. 04. 2012 07:57:30

Exactly such a path maybe wasn't described (I didn't check all), otherwise this beautiful corner of our country (Čreta area and approaches, also from Žovneško lake) is mentioned several times under Dobrovlje topic. Many approaches to this plateau and Čreta, the one from Žovneško lake or Lipa really among the nicer ones.

Regards to all
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LidijaJesih16. 04. 2012 19:52:42
Savinjčan, unfortunately we didn't see the frescoes, our guys probably didn't figure out on the sightseeing tour that a key can be obtained. Something will be left for next timesmile. Sometimes it's really a shame we know our tiny homeland so poorly. Before yesterday I probably couldn't find Dobroveljska planota, nor Dobrovlje, maybe I'm a bit ashamed of itembarrassed, but now I know where it is. And maybe someone else will read this and get an idea for a similar trip. When everything is green and flowers are blooming, it will be even nicer. Also some bench for sitting can be found.wink
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savinjcan6516. 04. 2012 21:23:53
I hope they told you that your tour ended where the ascent of the Celje counts began. l.p.
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coooler4. 11. 2012 22:00:30
On Saturday 3.11.2012 a hike to Čreta from the direction of Žovneško lake past the castle and further. Weather held, here and there some sun rays.

Some photos:
Beautiful autumn colors1
Žovnek Castle2
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Along the path4
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Monument to the fallen fighters6
Interesting paths, as if it were a mirror :)7
KSA in the clouds8
Church of the Holy Mother of God on Čreta9
Žovnek Lake10
Several such obstacles on the path due to the snow that fell last Sunday.11
A part of Žovnek Castle12
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Kokta17. 11. 2014 18:36:01
Saturday 15.11.2014...from Vransko
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climbing wall2
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across the meadow into the forest5
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Hut on Čreta22
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monument24
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Holy Mother of God on Čreta28
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Tadej1. 02. 2016 05:51:41
Some photos from Saturday trip Petelink - Čreta - Kokarje - Farbanca - Čreta - Petelink.
There was little snow on the path, but it was quite icy.
Regards, Tadej
Morning snapshot1
Petelink2
Petelink sports field3
Snapshot4
Rapasija - Čreta path5
Snapshot6
Hut on Čreta7
At the hut on Čreta8
View from the church of the Holy Mother of God9
View towards the misty Kamniško Savinjske Alps10
Glimpse11
Glimpse12
Church of Our Lady13
View14
Black pine15
Church in Kokarje16
Kokarje17
Kokarje18
Along the path Kokarje - Farbanca19
Lahki studenec20
Farbanca21
Glimpse22
Church of St. Catherine on Čreta23
Glimpse24
Petelink25
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zokipoki19. 11. 2017 17:46:15
Towards Čreta today from Nazarije, through Črni graben, pathless, by feel, to Kokovnik, for view and circular back to valley. Fantasy!
Steep pathless terrain. I chose the right side of the rock formation. 1
In the steep incline. 2
Exit from the forest, continuing towards the observatory. 3
View towards Mozirska planina and Raduha in the background. 4
Observation point. 5
Rest area and cross above Kokovniki. 6
View of the Savinja part of KSA from the rest area. 7
Another view towards KSA. 8
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seinfeld13. 04. 2018 10:37:47
Maybe someone knows if the path from Saint Jošt towards Smolnik, Goli vrh, to Menina planina is marked? I would go from Žovneško Lake to Menina planina.
Thanks for the answer.
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geppo13. 04. 2018 11:57:01
I haven't hiked the entire route you're interested in, but some sections yes. On the Peš poti map the whole route is marked and it should be marked that way too.
Here I'm attaching a photo, where roughly I go to Šavnice - Goli vrh and then continue along the ridge towards the transmitter and turn left for the hut. This part unmarked, but no trouble just stick to the ridge. The whole stage from Žovnek to Menina will be quite long!
lp
http://www.pespoti.si/map.php?table=12125&id=104
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gral13. 04. 2018 15:53:48
The entire route of the path is marked nasmeh Lp
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zokipoki4. 11. 2018 20:57:04
Nazarje, Sunday, 4 November.
I've long wanted to repeat the hike that my friend Jure and I enjoyed about seventeen years ago. The whole week I hoped that the weekend would be the moment and it really happened. Jure isn't nearby, so I go alone. Around ten in the morning I drive from Nazarje towards Čreta and in ten minutes arrive at the start. I park by the road before the last right bend before Kraple. Exactly at the bend a gully branches left upwards steeply ascending to the marked path to Čreta which crosses it. Fifty meters approx. I start straight into the gully. Wet. In the initial part I climb the buried gully, scree and dodge fallen trees. Soon the gully forks and I head left. Water flows on the right. Direction is correct. Above me I spot a short almost vertical rock step (3-4m) leading to a small gully midway in the gully. Rock covered in moss and slippery. Don't risk it. Cross gully left and climb out to steep terrain. Ten meters higher, right by big rock notice possible variant to return to gully. Climb by the rock. Grab roots and undergrowth. When I crawl to possible passage, find myself by and above gully. Decide to advance along edge on steep exposed terrain. A little higher see path crossing gully and spruce with mark. Keep left, reach short ridgelet and there step on marked path. From there go right on marked path to top of gully, where exit forest to Jegovnik meadow. Further path keeps slightly right by meadow, twenty meters to junction. There head even more right pathless and by feel moderately ascend to Krapletov vrh (905m). Summit good five minutes from junction. At summit view opens to Zadrečka valley, Zakrajski peči and prominent rock tower Orlovi peči. Head there. Turn left and descend short partly steep terrain all the way to road to Čreta. Step on road and continue right down towards Kraple. Past cross, fifty meters. Before reaching Kraple turn left from road by fence to clearly unmarked path. Views are nice. Follow path, which enters forest, crosses two narrow wild gullies and leads to steep north slopes of Čreta, under Zakrajski peči. Along path look back to peči and search passage, gully that Jure and I climbed. Find it! Happy continue and after a few minutes reach Orlova peč. World is wild and smells of history. Bloody stories envelop this natural monument. Feeling is gloomy.
Satisfied that I've reached here, decide to go further and try to find Jarekov brlog, 40m deep cave with two meter wide and four meter high entrance. Think it will be possible. Follow trail to junction. Take steep path that leads closer to peči. Look and look, don't see cave. Walk further and suddenly see road to Farbanca below me. Missed the cave. After consideration determined to find suitable ascent at extreme west edge of peči and head to Borovnjak (928m). When I succeed I tell myself that I will cross peči along the top towards Čreta and starting point, then below me after approximately five minutes of walking spot cave. Is this Jarekov brlog? It seems to me that it is. Descent straight down not feasible without rope, so turn and return back under peči hoping to find cave. On rock spot red direction mark. This will be it. Ascend up and down along peči and follow some red lines on rock that appear every twenty meters. Terrain is demanding, wet, very steep. Leaves make path difficult. After some time on rock notice red abbreviation B. G. F. (didn't photograph). Look around. Nowhere see any cave, nor passage. A bit nervous advance along rock under peči. Climb over rocky passages littered with leaves and watch step. Here and there still some red line on rock and game trail. Walk further and again spot Orlova peč, this time below me. OK, missed again. A bit angry and tired abandon search for cave and instead look for passage in Zakrajski peči that leads to top of Čreta. Time is pressing. Trudge through leaves steeply up the gully. Keep right, climb by rock towards narrow rocky chute at end of gully. In hand remain roots, leaves, soil and stones breaking from rock. Last ten meters become even steeper. Crawl on all fours and pull over wet rock. Fall would not be favorable. Adrenaline does its job and in a few swings I'm at the top. Yesss! Pant and groan. Tired from crossing under peči and final ascent, treat myself to some water and banana. Slightly shaken look right and about ten meters away spot memorial plaque to the late, once active member of PD Nazarje Robert Teržan. From there go left towards southwest in direction of Čreta. When reach forest road turn left and soon reach church of St. Katarina on Čreta. Follow descent to mountain hut I. Štajerski battalion (966m), where treat myself to tea and stamp deserved stamp. From there further, back up towards church of St. Mother of God, which stands in beautiful location. From church descend right towards Jegovnik, across meadow back to forest, above gully where I started today's path. Go through passage for gully to avoid it and descend left on steep slope straight to car. After five hours of wandering, crawling and climbing north slopes of Čreta, satisfied and tired, mentally and physically, drive back to valley.
Čreta offers a lot. I would like to repeat this hike, of course in dry conditions and with more time available. Hope I succeed in finding Jarekov brlog too.
Stay safe!
Starting point1
View upwards2
Here I start3
Ravine4
I go left5
Interesting scenery.6
View back7
Rock step (dangerous when wet)8
To the right upwards behind the rock...9
...up here10
Left along the rock (very steep)11
Exposed12
on the marked path13
Marked path14
Helleborine15
Here I go right16
Towards the top (Krapletov vrh - 905 m)17
View towards Orlova peč18
cross by the path19
Here I turn left from the road by the fence. Kraple in the background.20
view21
Grabenček22
hunting path23
path24
From left to right: Završki vrh 828m, Kraple and Krapletov vrh 905m25
One of the passages leading to Čreta over Zakrajske peči26
Orlova peč27
bridge on the path28
Peči29
Borovnjak (928m) and...30
... Jarekov brlog?31
Sign32
Under the cliffs33
Demanding traverse (look back)34
Along the path35
Up there36
The last meters are adrenaline-packed37
exit from the gully38
marker39
St. Catherine40
Along the path41
Hut on Čreta42
Towards Sv. Materi Božji43
Sv. Matera Božja on Čreta44
Along the path45
Back towards the ravine where I started46
Nice passage (look back)47
Still down here and...48
...end49
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Tonika5. 11. 2018 18:24:44
Zoran you have Zs
Lp
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Pastirica6. 11. 2018 08:10:22
A few years ago I wandered around there. Succeeded on the second attempt. Maybe the pics will help.
when it had not yet succeeded

jerekov brlog
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gral7. 11. 2018 18:59:21
Zoran well described....Jerekov brlog is east of Orlova peč...but obviously another exploration nasmeh
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zokipoki8. 11. 2018 17:46:19
Thanks gral!
Just east/west confused me nasmeh on the map I have Jerekov brlog located in the west part of the cliffs....that's why I searched there.
Next time nasmeh
Stay safe!
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geppo15. 12. 2018 19:37:30
Zoki described his wandering up there quite in detailvelik nasmehcool
As much as we hiked today, I could add a paragraph or two...
We started about a km before Krampet. Snow cca. 5cm. Road decently drivable.
Then we continued on foot in a nice winter idyll. Conifers magically surrounded by snow cover, sun, peace, silence. Before Tolsti vrh we checked the underground cave Štubernica. We visited Tolsti vrh 1077m. Past the monument hidden in the sinkhole (Vera Šlander, Dušan Kraigher). We descended to Farbanec, the nicely renovated former forestry hut. Duty Sandi&Suzana. They welcomed us nicely and served us.cool
After the break we continued along the hunting path to the Krampe farm. In between we tackled the search for the cavity Jerekov brlog (Zoki inspired me when I read his search). Of course I thought "no problem". But it was not quite like thatzmeden
On the icy, snowy steep slope that allows no slipping, we searched for tracks, holds, grabbed firs, slid down the slope...velik nasmeh quite interesting!
We found a bunch of holes, cavities, cracks, just no den...zmeden
We reconciled ourselves to a repeat (probably more internallyvelik nasmeh) and after cca. 15km and 7 hours ended the "walk" through Dobrovlje/Čreta.
At Bohač we drank beer & mulled wine and went home.
lp
Towards Čreta1
winter fairy tale2
view into the valley3
winter fairy tale4
At the monument5
Marijina Church Čreta6
At the church7
Mountain hut on Čreta8
Participant named it gates to heaven - immediately reminded of Zeppelin (Stairway to Heaven)9
Viewpoint towards Vransko10
Viewpoint towards Vransko11
Walk through the cave12
At the monument13
Tolsti vrh14
Beech tinder fungus15
Some go by moped to Farbance16
Farbanca17
Pleasant atmosphere, friendly service, worth a visit18
on the path19
There were quite a few such inserts, and even more difficult ones...20
One of the many21
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route covered23
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