Collection of parking fees
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| dore25. 07. 2010 18:18:38 |
Dear mountaineers, so you won't worry too much about the parking fee, go to the hills by train or bus.
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| turbo25. 07. 2010 18:45:19 |
Sorry, I thought of the real sign but described it wrong. Of course it's as others described it. But the no-parking sign actually stands where I wrote. By the road, on the right, you have to pay attention to notice it. A little further, right by the road, is Kopiščarjeva homestead.
Unfortunately, bills will be handed out further, not only there. Unfortunately.
It's true, they could or should next to the TNP board at least write that the traffic regime has changed compared to last year and how to act so as not to violate the law.
Dore, good idea, but no railway in Trenta, bus only in summer. Once a comprehensive law should be adopted for all TNP valleys on how, where and what to park, not different from municipality to municipality and year to year.
P.S.
not alone to the mountains. At least 4 in the car, better 5 if possible. Then the fine divided by four or five won't be so high 
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| heinz25. 07. 2010 19:58:06 |
Since neither I nor even one moderator of this forum saw the no-parking sign, and that moderator on the same day - day before yesterday - received "Warden notice" (read previous page), I ask anyone to paste here some photo of the traffic sign which according to some should exist.
At the valley entrance it wasn't visible, nor further anywhere by the road up to the parking before the barriers.
I also ask why then a sign would be needed before the right barrier if the same ban was already expressed beforehand?
Thanks for the proof! Best, h!
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| donidoni25. 07. 2010 20:18:38 |
Yeah Dore, that worked years ago when first buses started at 400, now from smaller places they go only at 600, then let's calculate if we want to start at 0530, then you can go a day before and come home the third day. lp
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| mukica26. 07. 2010 09:22:55 |
Exactly so, the green train also goes only at 7 or a few minutes before, so for every serious tour you lose the morning when the weather
is usually nice, in the afternoon you can always expect some shower, thunderstorm
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| turbo26. 07. 2010 10:01:26 |
Since May Day holidays, when I first heard about fining for illegal parking in front of the barrier in Zadnjica, I've been there many times. And I went once at 0.5m to check that sign. It is there and you can really miss it. Because the road is narrow, from the sign you already see the first houses on the right and since you're focused on driving and watching that no one comes from the opposite direction, you easily miss that sign.
Whoever doesn't believe, let them do the following. When turning from the main road, after a few 10 meters on the right they'll see a large gravel area - intended for parking. Then let them go on foot further along the road, when they cross the concrete water drain channel (every car stops there so it doesn't get stuck) let them go a bit further. Soon a small road branches off to the right slightly downhill, where there's a Privat sign. This road leads to Kopiščarjeva homestead. And right there, at this junction, I'm not entirely sure if a meter further or a meter back, right next to the road on the right (in the direction of travel to the end of Zadnjica) is the no-parking sign. It's spot on. When I'm there again (soon) I'll photograph it from the front, back and side.
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| VanSims26. 07. 2010 13:51:08 |
I agree too that public transport in Slovenia is at such a poor level of organization that it's simply not feasible to go hiking with it. Even for shorter tours it's too much time loss.
When I went to Bogatina from Savica, I also checked the train option because of the parking fee collected there, plus with the weekend discount I might even save on driving costs compared to the car.
Well when I saw the timetable it was clear it wouldn't work. Then I didn't even look further for info if they would take my bike on the train to ride from Bohinjska Bistrica to Savica (abroad that probably wouldn't be a problem).
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| felix3. 08. 2010 12:16:12 |
I didn't start a new thread, as this issue partially fits here too. I think in the future we'll want to pay parking fees at some parking lots, of course if the cars are safe there too. I think there are more and more crooks breaking into cars. So about 14 days ago my buddy and I parked at Žagana peč in Kamniška Bistrica. Only a week ago I noticed, as did my buddy, that someone tried to break into the car (bent sheet metal of the door frame above the door and inner door part - probably used a larger screwdriver). What the motive was, whether just theft from inside or maybe even car theft, I don't know. But I think there will be more thieves in the future breaking into cars at such remote parking lots and we'll actually want organized paid parking lots somewhere.
Lp
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| ben3. 08. 2010 17:50:29 |
Well, let me cheer up all those who got a violation notice in Zadnjica, there will be no sanctions. My sister parked there and got the warden notice the same day as Heinz, and of course complained. They replied to her that the no-parking sign is indeed there as Turbo says, but it only applies to parking on the roadway, not outside it. And since most of them were parked on the parking lot, no one will get fined, not even those who were parked on or by the roadway (those were in violation). But it's true that they'll probably make an effort and install a proper sign prohibiting driving up the valley or install the barrier much lower than now.
lp B
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| Gorazd G3. 08. 2010 18:19:17 |
Felix, I doubt that a paid parking lot will also mean that cars are safe from crooks. We'll pay for (organized?) parking lot, not for car guarding. Unfortunately. If it's different, we can be happy, but I strongly doubt it.
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| zippo3. 08. 2010 19:43:08 |
Thanks for the consolation, ben. But if someone gets a notice for non-payment (like I did) that they'll deduct full fine + collection from salary, and at the bottom it says complaint doesn't suspend execution, then you can only whistle that: "always look on the bright side of life"
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| ben3. 08. 2010 20:06:00 |
Dear Sir/Madam!
First, thank you for your message and suggestions. Yours and a few similar messages (complaints, remarks) I, together with the warden, studied in detail.
The purpose of the municipal administration (from which the initiative for parking control also came) was to stop vehicles right at the junction of the road to Zadnjica, where there is an organized and marked parking lot. For this purpose, a traffic sign prohibiting parking and stopping is placed at the end of this parking lot, which applies to the road from the sign onwards. However, I must agree with most messages where potential violators point out that they did not violate the Road Traffic Rules. The municipal administration with such traffic signage obviously did not achieve its purpose, since the traffic sign prohibiting parking and stopping applies to the carriageway. Any stopping and parking outside the carriageway (which is the case of the once-made parking lot that is supposed to be in a water protection area), is not prohibited by such a traffic sign.
Given this actual situation, I can only conclude that most vehicles did not violate the Road Traffic Rules. But so as not to conduct individual proceedings (vehicles parked on the roadway were in violation), we decided to close the proceedings with a written warning to all. I am aware that in the event of a possible justified objection, I would have to actually stop the procedure, but the consequences for visitors are the same (none).
We call on the municipal administration, to which I forward this letter for information, to regulate the traffic signage so that it achieves its purpose. Otherwise, it is necessary to inform the reporters of "incorrect" parking that parking up to the barrier is allowed. If there is a need and serious intention to prevent vehicle access beyond the marked parking lot, it is necessary to install a traffic sign prohibiting traffic of all vehicles or to physically close the road with a barrier. Supervision of violators will be carried out by both the warden service and TNP supervisors.
I hope you are satisfied with the answer, although I am aware that the received "warden notice" did not exactly brighten your day.
Inter-municipal administration of the municipalities of Bovec, Kobarid, Tolmin and Kanal ob Soči
Well, the original letter is like this, and I don't know how you, zippo, interpret this, but everything is clear to me. 
lp B
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| meninski3. 08. 2010 20:24:47 |
everyone would just cash in, but if someone would do something to make it better, that's rarer to see
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| ivona6. 08. 2012 18:08:36 |
Hello mountaineers! The question bothering me I'll ask right here, since the topic partially matches the title.
I'd like to find out if driving a small bus to Planina Blato (i.e. to the Blato-Vogar junction) is allowed. I've got very different info myself - last year the toll collector at Vogar told me it is allowed, this year Bohinj tourist office replied by email it's not.
Is anyone of you who will pay that toll this week willing to ask how and what, and tell me here or private message??
Best regards and really thanks for any answer.
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| ljubitelj gora16. 08. 2012 13:31:12 |
Yesterday Planina Pecol, tons of cars, parked everywhere, on alpine grass, edges where there was space, many people brought chairs, table and settled, probably no one prosecuted them like they do here, to Planina Pecol surprisingly good asphalt road and no toll, here Planina Blato toll 10 euros, no views from Blato, lakes (Mangart Lake and Rabelj Lake), there no one collects parking and no one bothers if you go dip a bit. Wondering what Slovenian horses and mares we have in chairs, that don't even allow that day for free pleasure, so most return next day energized to work. True Italians have way more mountains, lakes than us, but we're in EU, no borders anymore, all one, only here we still have forbidden borders, sorry for this comment!
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| danicak16. 08. 2012 14:18:23 |
answer for Ivona....a bit late. Was about 14 days ago at Planina Blato, up there driving also vans small bigger almost small buses. So I think no problem. Spoke to parking collector below, she said this year even bigger vehicles can drive. Info if helps-
D.
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| urbancek16. 08. 2012 17:58:17 |
@LG: You nailed this comment... We shame ourselves wherever we can... Pity, our little country has such potential...
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| pikec116. 08. 2012 18:19:39 |
Slovenia sucks. Parking at Savica waterfall 5 eur, at Bohinj lake again 5 eur, Planina Blato 10 eur, that's 20 eur for one k. Bohinj, then took kids on trip to see beauties of S(s)lovenia. In Dolomites at passes never experienced parking fee. Where do I prefer to go?
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| urbancek16. 08. 2012 18:32:31 |
We look short-term... If expensive parking, maybe in future less or if exaggerate no visitors, which long-term surely worse than cheap and many visitors. Same with petrol, bad road conditions and could list more areas. Last year tourists lost nerves in 15km queues on our roads, standing hours... Does anyone ask what damage to tourism? Will any return through our country, or avoid it due to such unpleasant experiences?
Then wonder why we are where we are... 
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| rjudnic16. 08. 2012 18:43:35 |
Whoever thinks that Bohinj will be empty because of parking fee, it would already be, since this parking fee is not from yesterday. Also to Planina Blato they collect toll for some time, people still drive up.
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