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Bogatin and Komna

dija31. 05. 2014 16:01:46

Sorry if I asked too relaxedly what the conditions are like these days on Bogatin. And what are they?

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dija6. 06. 2014 11:32:29

Path from Koča pri Savici to Komna is ok - where there are tree remains the path is unobstructed or new section made, so path is passable. From junction to Črno jezero there's still some snow, but you can get up.

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MNJAM11. 06. 2014 13:00:15

From Koča na Komni to Bogatinsko sedlo the path is almost dry. You can also reach Bogatin and Mahavšček, but not on marked path, because you need to bypass some snowfields.

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SuzanaM15. 02. 2015 08:21:35

On 12.2.2015 I continued the hike I started the day before at hotel Zlatorog in Ukanc.

Original goal was Lanževica, but in the end I was overjoyed to have pushed through to Bogatinsko sedlo.

To Koča pod Bogatinom there was a nicely snowshoed path, further ski tracks and 0.5 m deep holes of two hikers who struggled here the previous day. In the morning the path was still frozen, so with snowshoes no sinking into predecessors' holes, who turned back about 0.5 hours from Koča pod Bogatinom. I continued on the ski track winding along the summer path. From the start the path easily followed the mule track, then snow amount and steepness increased quickly. Soon I spotted a larger group of skiers far ahead. For sharp ski edges crossing steep slopes of Sr. Vrh was a breeze, for my snowshoes a real nightmare. While with snowshoes I barely dug into icy base, further with crampons I sank to knees. So at first opportunity I descended to valley and continued on winter path through Gracije valley, where the skiers ahead also descended later. Ascent to Bogatinsko sedlo no major problems, though under the top ice crust under snowshoes broke more and more. On saddle snow blown into drifts and windblown to ice. Similar towards Bogatin and Lanževica. For continuing to Lanževica I ran out of strength and after short break headed to valley. Over first steepness crampons were right, then snowshoeing in valley pure pleasure. Border between wet and dry snow right in middle of valley. Unfortunately carefree wandering ended quickly as fog crept from valley. Due to poor visibility I joined mule track a bit later than otherwise.

For hikers better to break trail through Gracije valley. Despite still visible debris passages in valley nicely filled. In winter conditions this approach much more suitable than steep crossings under Sr. Vrh. Although snow from steepness above mule track already slid to valley in previous days, already in morning soggy snow under 1-2 cm ice crust didn't provide real support. Otherwise next days cloudy weather, new snowfall forecasted, so snow conditions probably completely different.

My nice two-day trip around Komna I ended at shamefully decaying hotel Zlatorog in Ukanc.

This is how it was at Bogatinsko sedlo on 12.2.2015.

For starters, admiring the awakening day right from my room in Dom na Komni.

Kamniško Savinjske Alpe above the sea of fog.

View to the other side towards Bogatinsko sedlo.

and illuminated the sea of fog above Bohinj.

Planina Na kraju and Koča pod Bogatinom.

Further on, 0.5 deep footprints of the predecessors.

View back towards Dom na Komni (zoomed).

Further on along the skiers' tracks across increasingly steep slopes.

In the distance I spotted a larger group of skiers.

The slope was at the lower safety limit for my snowshoes, so I tried crampons afterwards.

Another view back and towards the valley.

Postholing exhausted me completely soon, so at the first crossing I descended into Gracija valley.

These are terrains that my snowshoes love.

Even the skiers realized that this path to the saddle would be easier.

While the skiers ascended in switchbacks, with snowshoes it was easier straight up.

From Dom na Komni to the saddle I needed 2 hours and 45 min with stops for changing shoes and photographing.

There was not enough strength to continue to Lanževica, some needed to be saved for the descent to the valley too.

It would be nice to descend towards Krnsko jezero too.

Fog also on the Primorska side of Sp. Bohinjskih gora.

Over the first steep part with crampons, then with snowshoes.

The path through the valley is pure snowshoe poetry, but fog was already spilling over the peaks from the valley.

Another view back to the snowshoe paradise.

Another view back at the sunny expanses before fog engulfed me.

good that the fog thinned a bit in between and searching for passages was somewhat easier, winter markings also helped

back on the mule track (to the right of the larch the winter marking is visible)

hotel Zlatorog, once a pride, now a shame of Bohinj

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ločanka15. 02. 2015 10:22:56

Suzana, once (really many years ago) the winter variant went completely elsewhere, didn't go past Koča pod Bogatinom at all, but from Dom na Komni through middle of valley to Bogatinsko sedlo. Whenever I'm now on Komna in winter, I don't see this variant trodden anymore. Where does this winter path start now? Thanks in advance!

SuzanaM15. 02. 2015 12:33:00

Ločanka, in winter conditions I first hiked this path on 12.3.2014:

Then there was good 3 m snow and all debris nicely covered with thick snow blanket. Predecessors' track turned into Gracije valley a bit further from koča pod Bogatinom. To help where to turn into valley, there are also winter markers near the mulatjera. First-timers look for passages where they think best, others follow. You adapt to terrain and snow conditions, the path is always found.
On photo 52 right of the fir tree one of the winter markers is visible. I joined the mulatjera a bit earlier.

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zamet25. 02. 2015 18:42:21

And is the road passable to Savica, and what are conditions like towards Komna, would it be ok for touring..

jax25. 02. 2015 18:54:16

To Savica must be drivable. Rest someone else will say ...

ciklama25. 02. 2015 20:35:41

Yeah of course it's dry to Savica! Path to Komna is excellent, we were there Saturday. Path well trodden, snow hard so walks great. For better feel we had small crampons but went fine without them too. Up top winter fairy tale, bit of snow and more wind! Hut has such nice staff you'd go up all the time! In short Komna calls in all seasons!!!

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zamet25. 02. 2015 22:31:06

Big thanks to both.

tender28. 02. 2015 19:27:13

Today to Komna, otherwise no problem but some modest crampons are welcome. On some spots due to skiers the path is already pure toboggan.

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zamet28. 02. 2015 22:17:11

If there were no skiers the path wouldn't be so hard either ...Yeah nice up there today..
Attaching some pics from Komna and Vogel today..

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ločanka1. 03. 2015 07:50:52

Describe this tour more for us! Did you ski from Komna to Vogel or what?

zamet1. 03. 2015 10:22:32

No no to Komna and back where skiing not so great then gondola again tour to top of ski area Vogel then down Žagarje grab to valley where skiing nice....