Valvasorjev dom pod Stolom - Hochstuhl/Stol (Žirovniška way)
Starting point: Valvasorjev dom pod Stolom (1181 m)
| Latitude/Longitude: | 46,426°N 14,1468°E |
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Route name: Žirovniška way
Walking time: 3 h
Difficulty: easy marked way
Elevation gain: 1055 m
Elevation difference along the route: 1080 m
Map: Karavanke - osrednji del 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer):
Recommended equipment (winter): ice axe, crampons
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Access to starting point:
From the highway Ljubljana - Jesenice take the exit Lesce and follow the road ahead in the direction of Žirovnica and Jesenice. After a few km of driving, we will get to a crossroad, where the road to Žirovnica and Moste branches off to the right (from the direction of Jesenice left). Only a few meters ahead at the next crossroad, we turn left to Moste (right Žirovnica). Further, we drive past a monument to fallen soldiers, where the road starts ascending a hill below the railway track. At the top of the slope, we turn right (at the sign Vila Karin), we continue towards Završniško jezero and Valvasorjev dom. The road then flattens and brings us to a crossroad, where the road to Valvasorjev dom branches off to the left. We take the mentioned road (straight Koča pri izviru Završnice), which starts gently at first, then steeper and steeper on an occasionally quite rough road (the steepest parts are asphalted). Higher, the road brings us to a somewhat larger crossroad, where we continue left in the direction of Potoška planina (right Doslovška planina). The road then flattens and a little further brings us to the next crossroad. This time we continue slightly right in the direction of Valvasorjev dom (slightly left Ajdna and Potoška planina) and we drive on a steeper road all the way to the mentioned hut. We park on one of the parking lots by the road near the mountain hut, parking in front of the hut is allowed only for guests.
From Poljane (crossroad before Završniško jezero) to Valvasorjev dom is 5 km.
Route description:
From Valvasorjev dom we go right on a footpath in the direction of Stol. The path soon goes into the forest, where it slightly ascends and brings us to a smaller junction, where we continue right. The path then brings us out of the forest, where it crosses slopes below Monštranca. This gentle and partly scenic path, which a little further crosses a short strip of forest, we follow to a junction on Žirovniška planina.
We continue left in the direction of »Stol - Žirovniška pot« (slightly right Stol Zabreška pot) on the path which only a little higher passes into a dense forest, where it continues for the next 10 minutes. The forest then thins out, the path passes among bushes through which it then ascends all the way to the next strip of forest. When we again step into the forest, we will get to a pile of stacked logs and above them a sign which "urges" us, that if we can, to carry one with us to Prešernova koča. A little further, we step out of the forest, along the edge of which we then ascend steeper. Higher, the path turns a little to the left and crosses a short slightly exposed grassy slope. The path then slightly flattens for a short time and brings us to a pleasant resting place, from which a nice view opens up on Gorenjska.
The path ahead ascends steeply again, this time on a slope which is mostly covered with dwarf pines. Higher, the path turns slightly to the right and brings us from the dwarf pines onto grassy slopes, where we also come to a less noticeable junction. We continue slightly right (left Potoški Stol and Vajnež) on a still relatively steep path, which soon passes onto the ridge of Mali Stol. This increasingly scenic path, which higher leads past a memorial, we follow all the way to Prešernova koča na Stolu.
From the hut we continue slightly right, past the sign in a few steps we ascend to the summit of Mali Stol. A short descent follows and the path brings us to a saddle between both Stols, where there is also a marked junction. We continue in the direction of Stol (right Celovška koča and Zelenica) on a transverse path, which after 10 minutes of further walking brings us to the highest peak of the Karawanks.
Valvasorjev dom - Žirovniška planina 20 minutes, Žirovniška planina - Prešernova koča 2:25, Prešernova koča - Stol 15 minutes.
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Discussion about the trip Valvasorjev dom pod Stolom - Hochstuhl/Stol (Žirovniška way)
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| Gost9. 09. 2006 |
For those who don't have the best fitness, I recommend driving by car to the hut! 5km on gravel is almost 1:30h shorter path to the top! Otherwise, Stol is a very nice mountaineering tour. So if you don't like Grintovec, Stol will surely be fantastic for you.
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| kolesar27. 02. 2007 |
I'm interested in what the winter hike to Stol is like? I haven't been in winter yet. I've been in winter say to Veliki Vrh, Kredarica, Snežnik, Begunjščica etc.
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| Gost27. 02. 2007 |
The lower and upper part is exposed to avalanches, even if the path is trodden there is no guarantee there won't be an avalanche. When the sun softens the snow, wet snow avalanches occur. In the upper part the path is sometimes icy. Everything depends on the conditions which are visible only when you're there. I think the path is somewhat more difficult than Veliki vrh.
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| Gost20. 04. 2007 |
Which path do you recommend - we would go to the top with a child.
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| Gost20. 04. 2007 |
Neither is dangerous, but it's a moderately long hike. I recommend a circular route (up one and down the other). Plp
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| Gost19. 05. 2007 |
I'm wondering if the hut on Stol is already open?
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| BraJan21. 05. 2007 |
No, Prešernova koča is still closed.
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| Gost28. 05. 2007 |
When does the hut on Stol open?
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| Gost12. 06. 2007 |
Hut opened June 8. I was up there June 9 and everything is as it should be. Food, accommodation, tidy, friendliness,...
Very nice path: leave car in Žirovnica, to Valvasorjev dom, to Stol overnight, next day along ridge past Vajnež to Javorniški rovt and to Koroška Bela for bus back to Žirovnica. Žirovnica-Valvasor 1:30h, Valvasor-Stol 3h, hut-summit-Javorniški rovt 4h very leisurely walk, rovt-Koroška Bela under 1h.
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| Gost21. 07. 2007 |
Today we were at Stol with the family. One of the ladies strapped a log from the woodshed onto her back, which you can also see in the upper picture. When she brought it to the hut, one of the first comments from the caretaker was "Haven't the small ones run out yet". Then she got a candy for carrying. When she then ordered some teas and mentioned that in the past huts used to give tea for carrying logs, the response was: "Too bad, the wood would be too expensive".
It's not about how they reimburse the carrying, but a candy and thanks would be polite. Candy and "too bad" is arrogant. And returning effort with arrogance is petty.
At first I felt like carrying that log back down.
Then I calmed down with the option to describe everything here, so that no one else with good intentions steps into the muck.
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| andrej76730. 07. 2007 |
Yeah Upper Carniolans have always been thrifty - even with praise and nice words...
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| veseli planinec2. 08. 2007 |
The hike to Stol is really fantastic. The path is not demanding and at the top there is also a very nice view!
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| Gost3. 08. 2007 |
The prices at Stol are so high that you'll faint.
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| Gost28. 08. 2007 |
T-shirt 10 euros expensive but I still enjoyed it on Stol
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| nele15. 11. 2007 |
I'm interested in how much snow cover there is on Stol,
if someone can tell me.
thanks-lp
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| Gost23. 11. 2007 |
In pictures number 9 and 10 I see a hut or shelter, but I don't know where it is? I politely ask someone to tell me where it is? I know it's not Valvasorjev dom! LP
Joca
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| Gost23. 11. 2007 |
Dear Rok, thank you very much!!! LP Joca
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| Gost6. 12. 2007 |
Was on Stol last year end of October and it was hot below the summit (last autumn warmer than ever before), lower down it was cloudy so from the top you couldn't see into the valley, but on the top the air was so clear and ideal for photography (Julian Alps, Kamnik Alps etc.), Stol is very nice, only if the weather conditions are really good.
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| narcisa9. 04. 2008 |
I'm interested in how much walking there is from Žirovnica train station? Regards
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| tonej9. 04. 2008 |
For a good walker, from the train station to Valvasorjev dom pod Stolom it's about 1.5 hours. From there to Prešernova koča na Malem Stolu another 2.5 to 3 hours. Of course, time estimate is subjective. If you head to Stol in April - there is snow right above Žirovniška or Zabreška planina, which can be rotten and heavy to walk on.
Lots of sun and best regards
Tone
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| urosl1. 06. 2008 |
Today at Stol, everything excellent, but at this time the hut could already be open!  Or at least the stamp could be at the hut, not that my darling has to go to the top twice!
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| hostar1. 06. 2008 |
But next time, when you sleep over, it will be even more pleasant. You can't imagine how beautiful the mornings at Stol are.
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| bo_zl4. 08. 2008 |
On Saturday 2.8.2008 I was on Stol. Praise to the hut keeper, really friendly reception and also the strudel (štrukelj locally) was super and a proper decent piece. Unlike the one a few weeks ago at Roblekov dom, where it was really tiny and more like a pie than a strudel....
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| Virenque17. 08. 2008 |
When I was up there at the beginning of July, thank God the pollen ran out down there...
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| Biser gora23. 05. 2009 |
Today I was up there in nice sunny weather. Snow is only left in the valley between the two Stol peaks.
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| jerry23. 05. 2009 |
We were also on Stol today! In the morning the view of Triglav and the valley was fantastic. Snow doesn't cause any problems even without crampons. The hut on Mali Stol is still (supposedly until June) closed! That's why there's no stamp either 
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| azaleja6. 08. 2009 |
Today I was on Stol (again after 25 years ) and despite fog and wind  on the summit I had a nice hiking day. I went up via Zabreška pot and it bothered me a lot that in the lower part it's not sufficiently marked and I got quite confused, as the pasture is trampled by horses, so the path is hard to find I returned via Žirovniška pot, which is very steep and seemed hard to descend - knees suffer or EMŠA. Next time I'll go the other way, seems smarter to me
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| karlin29. 12. 2009 |
Today I was on Stol and from the sunny summit I observed the foggy valley. I just want to warn about the icy last third of the path, where the use of crampons and ice axe is mandatory.
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| Parkeljc28. 01. 2010 |
The car is best left at the Završnica dam, a few 100 m further is still possible by car, that's all. Yesterday we tried with chains - not worth it. We had to leave the car about a kilometer further, at the chapel. To Valvasorjev dom we walked about 50 min on the road, from there the path is initially good, soon we almost regretted not taking crampons. The path to the top is well visible, but higher up there is wind-blown snow on the path, which we were the first to break this morning. Crampons would really have been a great help, but there was no danger of slipping despite that. Somewhere at 3/4 of the path a strong sharp wind blew up, I don't know from where, but in a few seconds I no longer felt my cheeks. We had to mask up quickly, because of the strong gusts of wind it was all quite adrenaline-pumping for a few minutes and we were really afraid that the wind might increase towards the top. But the closer we got to the saddle, the more the wind died down. After a good three hours from the car we arrived at the top, not a breath of wind blew for those half hours, who would have thought, and when we descended, it all repeated, just in reverse order. On the bench again rest, refreshment and a bit of admiring the valley, then descent to the car. Stol is really unpredictable in all seasons even though it gives a calm appearance.
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| Micky1. 05. 2010 |
What's the situation like on Stol this year? How much snow still up there. I know the hut is still closed. Has anyone been there yet?
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| tomko5. 05. 2010 |
I was up there on 29.4.. Walked for two hours, conditions are good. I started as late as 2 pm and the snow that starts towards the top (on the ridge) held up. There's still quite a bit of snow at the top but it's walkable.
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| mojcej'725. 06. 2010 |
Today, June 5, 2010, my friend and I went up to Stol. The Žirovniška pot took us with breaks less than 3 hours and it seemed to us to consist of one endless ascent. There is no snow on this path anymore. Some remains in patches on the scree, where you can't influence the intelligence of people who take that as a faster descent option. The day was sunny and just the right temperature. Worth taking advantage of tomorrow too.
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| klavdy65. 06. 2010 |
The Žirovniška pot is really steep, but when you return via Zabreška everything is forgotten
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| Kotman29. 06. 2010 |
I've been drawn to Stol for quite some time now, and judging by the pictures I see it's quite rocky. Is it recommended to take a helmet?
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| jprim29. 06. 2010 |
You can take the helmet with you and tie it to your backpack, since it's not heavy, the decision to put it on your head or not is yours to judge, in my opinion - I've never used it, though I know the Zabreško, Žirovniška and Zelenica paths. From the Austrian side it's really necessary, but that path is now closed.
LP!
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| heinz29. 06. 2010 |
Well, Kotman, since you'll probably go for the first time on one of the hiking paths (Zabreška, Žirovniška, from Zelenica etc.) let me assure you that you definitely won't need a helmet there - anywhere. From our side no path is demanding.
Happy hiking, no worries! LP heinz!!
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| jprim29. 06. 2010 |
Well, ... heinz is the helmet in your opinion protection only against falling rocks?
LP!
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| heinz30. 06. 2010 |
Then it's best to put it on your head always and everywhere, - even when you go e.g. shopping. jprim, I believe you always have it with you..
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| el rocco30. 06. 2010 |
I am an amateur hiker and I have been to Stol many times and for the mentioned paths (Žirovniška, Zabreška) helmet is definitely not needed. As for the path, Žirovniška is really steep but you ascend quickly accordingly. From the bench onwards, you don't have to go directly to the gully to the hut anyway.
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| panda22. 07. 2010 |
Today started from in front of Valvasorjev dom at 6.45 via Žirovniška route, at 9.30 on top of Stol. Views beautiful, from Triglav to Grintovec without a cloud. Descent to Prešernova for a "rogca", then further along Zabreška, hot as hell. At Valvasor another rogac and drive home. Road from Žirovnica to the hut in pretty good condition. Best regards
Note: No pencil in the summit logbook. Bring your own.
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| Bojan_A22. 07. 2010 |
I was also there this morning for training at Valvasor (did we meet?), but didn't continue to Stol.
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| Karletto23. 07. 2010 |
..and also bring some pints.
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| panda23. 07. 2010 |
Nobody overtook me. Best regards
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| Parkeljc29. 07. 2010 |
Hmmmmm, it seems to me that the road to Valvasorjev dom hasn't been in such bad condition in the last two years, I would take a log with me, but the one who sawed them really exaggerates in size. Besides, resin still drips from the log, no thanks!
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| artur1. 08. 2010 |
My wife and I were at the top today. It bothered me a bit that I didn't find the road to Valvasorjev dom right away from the motorway. The weather was wonderful, we missed the 100th anniversary of Prešernova koča by just one day.
Only the log was already giving me some trouble towards the summit.
I recommend it, because the view is really unique.
Just need to get up early!
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| Cyro17. 08. 2010 |
It's a bit hard to find Valvasorjev dom, when you arrive in Žirovnica you go left (not right on the main).. and after the dam (or what??) you turn right-unfortunately there's only a sign for pizzeria or club Kirn??..later you follow signs to lovski dom (special sign only if you come from the Jesenice side)... it appears later...
Today, 17.08.2010..they were renovating the road, about 30% is already properly arranged, covered with soil or fine sand...
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| Parkeljc24. 08. 2010 |
Regarding the road to Valvasorjev dom, I really wouldn't waste words - DESPAIR! On 22.8. I drove to Valvasorjev dom hoping that what Cyro wrote on the 18th holds true. Let me just say that I've been to Stol 6 times this year, but the road has never been as bad as it is now. It is true that halfway along the road I met a bulldozer and a roller, which had "processed" the road to Potoška planina a couple of days earlier.
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| Gorazd G24. 08. 2010 |
Can I ask why hikers, mountaineers, alpinists, trekkers, in short all those who walk on foot (not all of us are all of the above) worry so much about the roads that lead into but not to the mountains?
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| heinz25. 08. 2010 |
For the ascent and descent from the valley to the summit, quite a bit more fitness than average is needed. Not everyone has/does it. If there were no road to Valvasorjev dom, Stol would certainly be less visited by more than half. We would climb it only a few times in a lifetime, not in a year.. Although the hiking path through the forest from Završnica to Valvasorjev dom is quite pleasant.
Otherwise, the path from Javorniški rovt (from Trilobit hut - "through Medji dol") is to my taste nicer, more interesting, perhaps even a bit less strenuous, more scenic.. and in short more suitable for a one-day tour than those leading from Valvasorjev dom to the summit.
And the road to the starting point is always in excellent condition, as it is almost entirely asphalted. A little before the dam or Trilobit there is plenty of parking space.
I therefore recommend the latter!
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| Stingray5. 09. 2010 |
Today I ascended Stol. Attaching a GPS track image of the above-described path in Google Earth for a better idea (might be useful to someone):
PICTURE
A few more pictures from the path can be found HERE
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| Micky12. 09. 2010 |
Today my wife and I visited Stol via the Žirovnica route. Beautiful day, not too hot, pleasantly breezy, excellent views both towards Slovenia and Austria. There were huge crowds on Stol - we dragged up like a procession.
The road to Valvasorjev dom is really not brilliant, but not as bad as described a bit higher up. True though, it would be best to go on foot already from Žirovnica. Most mountaineering!
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| oakley_sf20. 10. 2010 |
Is anyone going to Stol tomorrow, they forecast nice weather all day so we need to make the most of tomorrow. But does anyone know how much snow there is up there? I'm going for the first time so more info please, thanks!
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| klm20. 10. 2010 |
LITTLE SNOW; 3-5 CM THAT'S IT.
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| oakley_sf20. 10. 2010 |
Great! Are you going up tomorrow or have you already been this week?
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| klm20. 10. 2010 |
I WAS THERE RECENTLY. FOR TOMORROW I DOUBT I'LL HAVE TIME. WOULD GO WITH PLEASURE. MAYBE...
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| oakley_sf20. 10. 2010 |
Ahh, tomorrow you absolutely must go, it'll be nice weather all day, pity not to make the most of it, you'll find a gap in the whole day for a hike anyway!
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| klm20. 10. 2010 |
Sadly I can't. I have to water for LM, besides I've been to Stol so many times that it's gotten a bit boring. Since you're going for the first time, take it slow and enjoy the beautiful views that open up in ever different perspectives with gained elevation! Since there will be almost no hikers (some local surely turns up; quite a few climb to the nearby Valvasorjev dom, fewer go all the way to the top, yet) you might meet herds of chamois that at this time come from under the northern slopes to the southern grassy hillsides. About the (not)demandingness of the tour you can read in the above paragraph. In short, enjoy!!!
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| oakley_sf21. 10. 2010 |
Today started at 7:10 from the village Potoki to Ajdna. At the top at 7:50 nice view of the landscape, the sun illuminated Triglav and painted it orange, morning without clouds. From there continued the path to Valvasorjev dom, and further towards Stol via Žirovniška pot. A little before the summit I missed the path, first I wanted to reach the hut then to the top, but I ended up in that valley between Stol summit and the hut. There was knee-deep snow in some parts, as if that wasn't enough, the whole path was in shade and it was quite cold. Otherwise it wouldn't have been so strenuous to walk, until my dog (small pup 6kg) got scared of the deep snow, and I had to carry him across the whole valley hehe.. Well, I reached the hut, a bit windy, so I hid behind the hut, there it was pleasantly warm without wind. But I didn't go to the top, because of the little dog as wind was blowing and there was a bit more snow and I saw that today we're not going anywhere else. I was at the hut for 2 hours, then clouds started coming so I quickly packed my things, while it hadn't started freezing again and while I was still warm I went back to the valley. To V.dom it took me one hour, from there I didn't count anymore. Anyway, it was a nice day on 'Stol'
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| JusAvgustin21. 10. 2010 |
so you went after all... see, there's no more than 3-5cm of snow. but this afternoon it has already visibly melted some, I hope it won't "completely" melt it away... congratulations on the "neither autumn nor winter" ascent (that's what I mean, neither autumn-nor winter) so that no one gets too deeply offended again...
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| klm21. 10. 2010 |
Oakley sf, you had a good tour then. Nothing serious. There's a bit more snow; 7-8 cm, only in the cirque Med Stoloma there's some more drifted. I slightly reduced the snow cover height for encouragement and to reduce fear.
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| oakley_sf21. 10. 2010 |
yeah it was a nice tour. yeah there's a bit more snow nothing serious, yeah it's good there's snow because somehow I get down faster than where there's no snow. Where I got lost there was a bit more, nothing too bad Geolog I'm not offended, otherwise we know each other, I just changed my name. I'm the one who we're arranging the trip for next year hehe.
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| timgalema26. 10. 2010 |
for this weekend the weather is forecasted quite okay, but what snow, yesterday it snowed again, but who knows how much there is, and if it's trodden at all?
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| JusAvgustin26. 10. 2010 |
look at the path under your feet...
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| heinz26. 10. 2010 |
yes, yesterday it snowed, and today too - currently snowing. So there will be quite a bit, probably not much trodden yet.. caution due to avalanches under prižnica won't be superfluous.
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| oakley_sf26. 10. 2010 |
last week it was still passable, given that these days it's been snowing down to 700m, higher up new snow layers are surely more than last week. So I think the path will need to be trodden anew.
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| timgalema27. 10. 2010 |
I agree, anyone signing up who'll be first?
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| JusAvgustin27. 10. 2010 |
maybe tomorrow, maybe you'll pull the track yourself... it's really nice you'll see
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| timgalema27. 10. 2010 |
we'll try, probably it'll be fun in the end
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| oakley_sf27. 10. 2010 |
I'm going to Stol on Friday.
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| oakley_sf27. 10. 2010 |
timgalema are you going alone or are more of you going?
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| JusAvgustin27. 10. 2010 |
well, if there are so many of you, then I won't be dragging the trail alone tomorrow...
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| oakley_sf27. 10. 2010 |
geolog are you going up tomorrow?
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| JusAvgustin27. 10. 2010 |
yes, if I find someone to go with.
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| oakley_sf27. 10. 2010 |
I'd go but I don't have time, maybe Friday?
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| heinz27. 10. 2010 |
I was at Valvasorjev dom today.. I didn't intend to go further, but I met a hiker returning from the top, whom I asked what the path to the summit is like. And he says: horror! why, I ask.. because there's snow up to the waist in places, he says, impossible to reach the summit, no trail etc.. so I soon turned back...
o.k. I think, so it's not as easy as it looks...
otherwise there's up to 30 cm of snow at Valvasorjev dom too. the road there, - surprisingly fully plowed..
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| oakley_sf27. 10. 2010 |
heinz is there that much??!! hmm, then the forecasts are wrong...
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| oakley_sf27. 10. 2010 |
After the recent snowfall in the mountains, the snow has mostly melted away. Some remains only in the high mountains of the Julian Alps and in shady spots elsewhere.
With renewed snowfall, which began in the west in the high mountains already on Sunday, by this morning 10 to about 40 cm of snow has fallen in the Julian Alps. The amount depends mainly on altitude. Elsewhere in our mountains, there is less new snow.
The snow line has dropped to around 600 m altitude.
In the high Julian Alps, currently 40 to 65 cm of snow, lower down the amount decreases quickly. Elsewhere in our mountains, less snow, 5 to 15 cm. The snow is light and dry, the north and northeast wind drifts it into drifts on wind-exposed spots, so the snow cover depth is quite uneven.
Conditions in the mountains are currently wintery. Avalanche danger is low, 1st degree. The snow is light and soft.
This afternoon it will clear up and until the end of the week it will be mostly clear and initially cold. On Friday warmer air will arrive, the snowline will rise above 2000 m. Until Friday the snow will remain light, only on the surface in sunny aspects a crust will form. It will settle somewhat and also melt in lower altitudes. By the end of the week, snowline above 3000 m. Therefore, the snow cover in the high mountains will start to transform and settle quickly.
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| klm27. 10. 2010 |
The track ends approx. where you reach the grassy plateaus, or where the last dwarf pine slabs end. Last year, at the end of November, it looked like not much snow had fallen. I happily set off towards the summit, progressing quickly, the track easing my way. Slowly I started laughing, because while ascending I was already visualizing reaching the top in 3 hours (started at Završniški j.), but it ended quickly. First I had to cross a small, still fairly firm avalanche (it's in the same spot as the small gully) before the path turns sharply right into a small coniferous forest (there are logs stacked for Prešeren hut), from there the track started to disappear considerably due to drifted snow. From the rest spot it vanished completely. From there I had to break trail myself. I'll be the first, I thought. And went. At first it was fine, on nicely frozen crust, no sinking, then I broke through. Left leg to the knee. In the next moment my right leg was up to mid-thigh under the snow crust. Damn! Then it was OK for a while, until I sank again, this time to the crotch. Everything would have been fine if I hadn't been up to my waist in snow with both legs! Like quicksand, it was swallowing me! Like a penguin or seal I kicked and tried to jump out. Finally I freed myself and cautiously continued. Slowly advancing inch by inch... yeah, units of measurement change a lot in such conditions. But what, I idiot continued in similar fashion almost to the start of the gully Between the Stols, when it hit me. For those 200 vertical meters I used a good two hours!
I couldn't say the hike was a calvary. I felt like the biggest idiot, but when it doesn't go, it doesn't. Besides damaged pants, I mainly injured the skin on both legs. Since I had no gaiters, with each sinking my pant legs rode up, the top frozen snow crust cut, cut.... it healed nicely for two months, but for two weeks I woke up at night from pain every time I turned. I actually didn't feel the pain the whole descent to Valvasorjev dom... that's just part of the memories of last year's ascent to Stol. If there's too much snow, no point pushing to the top. It's smarter to turn back, someone will surely make the track to the top for you!
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| oakley_sf27. 10. 2010 |
hehe that was an adventure klm
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| Bojan_A27. 10. 2010 |
Yes, Klamen something similar happened to me last year on Srednji vrh. It was already April and I set off for mountain running (of course in shorts) via Jakoba, Cjanovca and Javorski vrh towards Srednji vrh. Snow appeared (unexpectedly) only higher up and cut me like a sharp blade (I also stopped only when I no longer felt my legs): http://bojanambrozic.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/img_18532.jpg?w=225
That's why I know well how it hurts.
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| JusAvgustin28. 10. 2010 |
yes, without snowshoes lol you turn back alone, that's unfortunately how it is. someone will surely pull the track this year too! hehe
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| JusAvgustin28. 10. 2010 |
out of curiosity I jumped up to Stol in the afternoon to check the conditions... , super! great hike for the afternoon. I'll prepare the description...
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| oakley_sf28. 10. 2010 |
geolog, you've already been?... now you've got me excited. and how was it can one reach the top??
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| oakley_sf28. 10. 2010 |
can someone tell if anyone else has been to Stol, that it's not dangerous to go to Stol now in this period because of the snow (I want to go tomorrow), so I can tell my girl that there's no special danger, I know it's a bit weird all together but she won't stop nagging until someone says it's safe. Otherwise I don't know what she's afraid of since she herself doesn't know what she's afraid of. So please be kind and save me from this torment!
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| JusAvgustin29. 10. 2010 |
winter gear, that's all I can tell you. safe or dangerous... that's relative
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| timgalema29. 10. 2010 |
nicely slowly and you'll tread the path, so my friend and I save effort for tomorrow!Will it go without snowshoes right?We have the other gear too
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| JusAvgustin29. 10. 2010 |
no snowshoes needed, the track is made, up top it's windblown and frozen
good hike!
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| švedrc29. 10. 2010 |
today I was on Stol via the Žirovniška path..
no problems, track is made, but as geolog wrote - winter gear mandatory! Valvasor was at least open on the way back, so I got my well-deserved beer.
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| timgalema31. 10. 2010 |
it was an excellent trip, sunny day with quite a few hikers, path supeeeeeeeeeeeeer
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| oakley_sf2. 11. 2010 |
yes Friday again sunny day, perfect for Stol
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| oakley_sf2. 11. 2010 |
hehe yes finally after two weeks
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| oakley_sf5. 11. 2010 |
but today again after a long time, nice sunny day. I used it to go to Stol, again via Ajdna past Valvasorjev dom and via Žirovniška to the top. At the top the sun had already warmed the ground, so no snow. Occasionally wind blew but it calmed quickly. For the return I took the path to Vajnež past Potoška and back to the valley.
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| oakley_sf5. 11. 2010 |
crazy, and even on snow I slipped
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| klm5. 11. 2010 |
Nice tour you did Oakley. But you didn't meet sheep under Vajnež?
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| Pesec13. 01. 2011 |
Maybe someone knows what the road to Valvasorjev dom is like now? Can you get up there with a normal car?
Is the hut open? (or some other hut around there - so kids aren't outside all the time).
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| viharnik13. 01. 2011 |
Valvasorjev dom is open on weekends, regarding the mountain roads around there, there are icy sections in many places. Do not set off on the path without chains. Especially during thawing, the ice will become even more slippery.
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| Parkeljc14. 01. 2011 |
On 1.1.11 we with a friend drove in a personal car (KIA) to the junction for Potoško planino, of course without chains!!! So we were about 800 m short of Valvasorjev dom!!! After this date I don't believe much new snow has fallen. Many behind us didn't make it over the icy section of the road, about 1 km from asphalt. With smart driving I think you can get almost to Valvasorjev dom.
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| FLEKSARCA29. 01. 2011 |
One classic question, is it possible by car to Valvasorjev dom? Thanks for info.
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| tomko29. 01. 2011 |
I was on Stol on 13.1. and drove to the last asphalted section. I think with smart driving and good tires you can get to the top.
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| FLEKSARCA29. 01. 2011 |
Thanks, then full throttle next week.
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| bizmbazm30. 01. 2011 |
Weather perfect for the summit. I'll head up this week too. About time to get some high mountain air.
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| Kristina_G*1. 02. 2011 |
I'll probably go on Thu, Fri or Sat along the above described path. Wondering if anyone would join me? Alternative is Begunjščica too.
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| FLEKSARCA1. 02. 2011 |
Going with two colleagues on Friday, maybe just info, yesterday I called the warden at Valvasorjev dom and he said you can't drive right to the hut (icy sections). We'll just walk a minute longer.
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| Kristina_G*1. 02. 2011 |
Thanks for the info. Also going with a colleague probably on Friday, so maybe we'll really meet
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| golmat1. 02. 2011 |
Stol is awesome! Never been disappointed. Also great is the path from Zelenica to Stol - description is online.
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| lepenatka2. 02. 2011 |
Hi, I'm also drawn to Stol for the weekend. I have plenty of fog goggles.
Is there still a lot of snow?
Avalanches probably not a problem.
I'd go along the Žirovniška path.
Thanks for the reply and enjoy
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| timgalema11. 02. 2011 |
Maybe someone knows how it will be tomorrow on Stol via Žirovniška pot up and Zabreška pot down, how much snow there is... anything, I'll be grateful.
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| lukapet11. 02. 2011 |
Some photos from last Saturday: https://picasaweb.google.com/luka.petkovsek/Stol522011#
Snow mostly in the last third of the ascent, lower there's snow just for sample, but path can be icy too, so crampons are quite recommended. Only weather tomorrow probably won't be the nicest per forecast.
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| Kristina_G*11. 02. 2011 |
I was on Stol Tuesday and it was great. At start no snow at all, then midway some snow, some ice, some nothing again.... Last hour fine with crampons as snow was hard but not much. On top completely soft from sun. If you want photos, write me.
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| robi143. 03. 2011 |
What are the conditions like on Stol? Has anyone been up there after the last snowfall?
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| bobo19. 05. 2011 |
hello. maybe some information about the conditions? I would go up tomorrow, interested?
lp,
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| JusAvgustin19. 05. 2011 |
The cirque between the peaks is under snow, the path to it is dry in some places, small snow patches elsewhere... The snow dumped by Zofka has almost completely melted.
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| heinz19. 05. 2011 |
Almost the same conditions as before the last snowfall. Nothing serious, but caution won't hurt. Happy trails!
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| stefanb1. 06. 2011 |
No. But next weekend.
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| heinz1. 06. 2011 |
Not yet. 11.6., until 25.9. I think..
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| IgorinMaja11. 07. 2011 |
We were there with the group on 09.07. - all ok, just windy as hell on the trail below the hut (btw, hut is open). lp
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| britof12. 07. 2011 |
With my son and his father-in-law, on 10.07.11 in the early morning hours, I set off towards the summit of STOL, so the sun only illuminated us at Prešeren hut. It was a wonderful day with a beautiful view of the valley and the Julian Alps.
For the path to the summit we needed 2h. 30min., then on the other side via pl. Žirovnica together 4h.30min.
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| ditkaedita16. 07. 2011 |
hello,
I would go to Stol in one day. Is that feasible? Which path do you recommend?
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| robter16. 07. 2011 |
ditka, the path description tells you how much time it takes. For this path, max 6 hours (up and down), so if you don't go too late in the afternoon, it's definitely doable in one day.
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| ditkaedita16. 07. 2011 |
kr neki, your answer is rude,
but if it makes you happy, I accept it.
robter thanks for the friendly answer,
I'm asking because through the mountaineering
society Stol was always scheduled for two days...
and I was thinking maybe it's
a strenuous path or something....
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| ninooos16. 07. 2011 |
ditka no worries, definitely in one day, we did it with kids (5 and 7 years) in less than 6 hours - start at Valvasorjev dom, up the Žirovniška path, back via Zabreška
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| ditkaedita16. 07. 2011 |
thanks ninooos, this is the answer that gives will and strength... I'm already looking forward to tomorrow
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| Janiel7429. 07. 2011 |
Is there any snow on Stol?
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| Janiel7429. 07. 2011 |
OK. Thanks for the info
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| Janiel7430. 07. 2011 |
Stol conquered and that from Poljana at 622m to Valvasorjev dom via Žirovniška gora and Zabreški dol. Beautiful views!
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| jvali16. 08. 2011 |
This Stol really tempts me. As it seems, I might go there alone. From comments it's clear you can ascend via Žirovniška pot, descend via Zabrška. Start and end at Valvasorjev dom then. Am I right? And probably early start is recommended (as always) since part of the path can be exposed to sun. Correct? Thanks for answer.
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| Lunca16. 08. 2011 |
jvali both hold true
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| Gayo27. 08. 2011 |
I'm interested if this path is suitable for a dog. Mainly I'm interested in the path to the top and how much scree there is. What about the path from Ljubelj and Zabreška pot? The dog has enough stamina and strength. I'm only concerned about possible climbing and scree because of the paw pads (especially on descent, as it's a daredevil, uphill is no problem, goes like a chamois).
Thanks.
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| bperc27. 08. 2011 |
I think the dog won't have problems. There is no climbing from the direction of Valvasorjev dom pod Stolom on any of the described paths. So the path is nice and I myself saw some dogs when I was up there recently.
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| bperc27. 08. 2011 |
I think the dog won't have problems. There is no climbing from the direction of Valvasorjev dom pod Stolom on any of the described paths. So the path is nice and I myself saw some dogs when I was up there recently.
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| Gayo27. 08. 2011 |
Super. Many thanks.
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| Kokta10. 09. 2011 |
Hi, today I was on Stol for the first time.. ascent via Žirovniška path and descent via Zabreška. Wonderful trip, perfect weather, at Prešernova koča soup and strudel phenomenal... highly recommend the ascent
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| Iksek17. 09. 2011 |
Today I was also on Stol. Via Žirovniška gora, via Zabreška dolina. The strudel is really good.
But the signs, or rather the times written on them, bothered me, as they are a bit at odds with reality.
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| Jure8717. 09. 2011 |
I was also up there today and chose the same tour as my predecessor (Iksek), only instead of strudel I ate pancakes which are also very good and a large portion too. I don't worry about the signs on the boards, as I seriously only consider the time written on hribi.net (otherwise I was up in a little less than two hours - but time is individual). Anyway, for a hiker with solid fitness, the times on hribi.net are alpha and omega for planning hikes.
PS: Prešernova koča will be open this year only until 25.09.2011.
Good luck!
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| Jure8728. 09. 2011 |
... just like most huts that are open from June to September were open ...
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| zvezdica8429. 09. 2011 |
Given that the hut is no longer open, I'm wondering where/if it's even possible to get the stamp for the transversala anymore?
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| Parkeljc29. 09. 2011 |
We'll probably have to wait until late spring
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| gti29. 09. 2011 |
Why wait? If there's will and time, you go to the summit, stamp the summit stamp, at the hut your own photo or two, and there's no such crowd as in the main season...
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| zvezdica8429. 09. 2011 |
If I understand correctly, the summit also has its own stamp? Well, then that one will suffice too
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| heinz30. 09. 2011 |
Of course. There's a fixed stamp at the top of Stol, but the pad is completely dry, so it's best to have your own. I don't use stamps myself, but I was there just yesterday evening witnessing persistent stamping efforts. The ink on the pad in the logbook box has dried up. Valvasorjev dom has a whole bunch of stamps in a basket at the bar (self-service).
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| zvezdica8430. 09. 2011 |
Big thanks for all the info!
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| uros.o4. 10. 2011 |
On Sunday, 02.10.2011 visited Stol... weather excellent, view even nicer.. hut on Stol closed "quite normal for this time of year"... wondering where to get the stamp for the transversal...???...
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| RetardVeverca8. 10. 2011 |
Today on Stol, didn't go quite to the top but still excellent conditions. Snow starts only at Valvasorjev dom, no tracks yet (well now there's a trail ), ca. 20 cm snow, probably a bit more on top but light and real pleasure to walk on. On steep terrain in sun it can be a bit avalanche-prone but due to snow amount not too dangerous, still need caution. View and feeling of course phenomenal
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| _sandra_15. 10. 2011 |
Does anyone know the current conditions on Stol, how much snow is left?
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| Marky19. 10. 2011 |
Is anyone interested in going together to Stol on Saturday (22.10.2011)?
Thinking up via Žirovniška path, down via Zabreška..
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| ljubitelj gora19. 10. 2011 |
There will be snow, but I'd rather go once in winter when the snow has stabilized.
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| sodnick20. 10. 2011 |
Both my partner and I are also planning to go to Stol on Saturday. I'm still quite congested but hope to be better by Saturday.
I also had concerns about the snow, since I haven't been to Stol in winter yet. There should be 20 to 40 cm of snow, which isn't too much.
Does anyone have experience with the first snow on Stol?
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| heinz20. 10. 2011 |
maybe some guy who got buried in it..
20-40 is more than enough!
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| otiv20. 10. 2011 |
Getting to Stol in the snow is no easy feat, especially in fresh knee-deep snow. I've been there during organized winter ascents when the track was already broken, and it was quite strenuous. It's not the same as the summer ascent, so proceed with caution.
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| neyo29. 11. 2011 |
Can you still drive further from Valvasorjev dom? How much? Namely, tomorrow I'm going to Stol. First time. But I don't have much time because I have to be in LJ in the afternoon already. Condition isn't too good either, since I've been on crutches for a few months.
Thanks for the answer. LP
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| sla29. 11. 2011 |
From Valvasorjev dom you can drive further by car, but it's not worth it. The path to Stol branches off the road 100 m from the hut. At Žirovniška planina it says 2:30 hours to the top.
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| bojann29. 11. 2011 |
nevo- Why Stol exactly?? If you say you have neither condition nor time.
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| neyo29. 11. 2011 |
bojann
Ankle injury took a lot of my time. Almost 4 months. Just the nicest part of the year. So this year I haven't been higher than 1700. Now the injury is healed, condition isn't quite at level. Weather is nice, won't be for long. I'd like to take advantage of it. The southern slope of Stol is nicely sunlit, the path is easy (according to description), so I decided for this path. Time is really a problem, but maybe it won't be. By 17:00 I'll already be in LJ.
LP
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| bojann29. 11. 2011 |
neyo- I completely understand you. I just thought it would be better if you chose a shorter ascent. But you probably already know how your ankle is. I wish you many more beautiful ascents in our mountains! LP
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| sla2. 12. 2011 |
neyo - did you succeed ?
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| Marky28. 12. 2011 |
On Monday 27.12.2011 we decided with the group to head to Stol. The forecast was more than promising, but it changed quickly and besides the sun we had wind and snow. We drove to Valvasorjev dom with the car, even though the last 100m were quite icy, but it was doable. From Valvasorjev dom to the summit the path is trodden and normally passable. I recommend crampons, just because of sliding on snow. That day there were quite a few people at the summit (besides our 4, about 6 more). We returned via the other, longer path, where we were first or the "footprints" were snowed over.
Photos from our ascent can be viewed at M-foto.si
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| Grand12310. 03. 2012 |
Hi, does anyone know how much snow there is or the risk of slipping...?
Thanks for the answer/s. lp
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| emil669. 05. 2012 |
Can someone tell me what the road to Valvasorjev dom is like? Is it the same as last summer, worse or better?
Thanks for the answer.
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| ben9. 05. 2012 |
The road was in impeccable condition 14 days ago!!
LP B
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| Alni17. 07. 2012 |
On Thursday we plan the trip to Stol. According to the weather forecast I hope we won't be in fog?
Which path should we choose for ascent and which for descent?
Choosing between:
Žirovniška pot
Zabreška pot
Are the times listed on this page realistic for an average hiker?
What is the road to Valvasorjev dom like? How much gravel is there?
Thanks
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| Alni17. 07. 2012 |
Anya fast as always
Somehow choosing between Kamniško sedlo or Stol What do you think?
We have new shoes with which we're also going to Pohorje today so they will handle 2x 2 hours of walking through Yesterday wasn't bad with them
Just informatively, I'm interested how much gravel approximately time-wise, so we know how to plan the morning departure?
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| turbo17. 07. 2012 |
Alni,
from MB, Stol from the Austrian side might be a good choice. You drive to Trate, approx. 1200m and then past Celovška koča to the summit. If you have fast legs, you can also hop to Svačica or Ovcji vrh.
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| turbo17. 07. 2012 |
and an addition from another "thread":
on Thursday it will be warm again and the snakes will sunbathe again
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| Alni17. 07. 2012 |
Anya me too) the weekend will be sour again
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| Alni17. 07. 2012 |
Anya me too) the weekend will be sour again
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| turbo17. 07. 2012 |
Yes, Alni exactly that.
Partially demanding shouldn't worry you. From Celovška koča to the saddle where the border is, there is a steel cable at one point solely as an aid to more easily get over the rocky step. And right below the summit of Stol, actually the saddle, there is scree terrain where you need to watch your step a bit. You can easily do the entire path from the car to the summit with poles in your hands.
Good luck!
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| Alni17. 07. 2012 |
And how much gravel to the parking lot?
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| turbo17. 07. 2012 |
Yes, there is some gravel, but the road was always well-maintained when I drove there. And wide enough if you meet someone to pull over.
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| Alni18. 07. 2012 |
How much gravel road is there? Enough so we can calculate when to leave home? 5km? 10km? Less?
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| turbo18. 07. 2012 |
A few km on gravel road, maximum 15 minutes. Exactly how many km I wouldn't know.
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| turbo18. 07. 2012 |
Anya,
let her ask
I remember myself long long ago
Every beginner is tough pardon, beginning
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| Alni18. 07. 2012 |
Thanks I agree no offense to anyone thanks for your patience
And of course thanks for all answers and help
Turbo I think you've convinced us about the path and we'll go tomorrow on the avatrijska path
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| turbo18. 07. 2012 |
Great, good luck! You'll definitely have a "full cool" time
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| Astroy19. 07. 2012 |
Complete beginners in hiking we did this path yesterday in about 4h (including breaks).... really super tour, incredible views almost the whole way, completely not exposed (except if you lean towards the Austrian side at the top ) at the top really divine Worth the effort! For the return we went via Zabreška path, which turned out to be a super decision, as it's a bit more gentle
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| jax19. 07. 2012 |
Well, such a comment is always nice to read. Enthusiasm for the mountains is obviously innate, now - sky is the limit.
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| Darxta20. 07. 2012 |
I'm curious what they can serve in the hut?
A group of us is heading up and as the quasi-organizer I need to tell the others what to bring, including food and drinks
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| Pohodnica5620. 07. 2012 |
Hm, hm.....let's eat
Everything spoon-fed, maybe a schnitzel too if specially requested if the cooks are in a good mood. And some strudel can be found. For picky eaters service from own backpack
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| Darxta21. 07. 2012 |
Eh, Styrians go with me, completely indiscriminate
Thanks for the info!!
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| klavdijas12. 08. 2012 |
Hello,
I'm interested in the condition of the road to Valvasorjev dom, because I plan to go to Stol tomorrow via the Žirovniška path. Thanks in advance.
best regards
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| Loni12. 08. 2012 |
At larger places you have to go "like on eggshells", otherwise it's passable.
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| BACEK JON12. 08. 2012 |
It's true, a little caution is needed at certain places, but regardless of the type of car you're driving, you shouldn't have any problems, because today there was a little sea of cars along the path to Valvasorjev dom and in front of it.
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| ub4017. 11. 2012 |
17.11.2012
Fantastic Saturday for visiting Stol. Only the summit with strong wind reminded that without hat and gloves it no longer works. For excellent conclusion they took care at Valvasorjev dom. Unobtrusively friendly and excellent kitchen.
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| amarilis17. 11. 2012 |
A few days ago we decided to visit Stol. Although the road to Valvasorjev dom was quite demanding for our steel horse, we managed it successfully. Soon it was clear that it would be windy on top, so warm winter hat and gloves came in very handy. At Valvasorjev dom tea was very welcome, not just one but two we drank. It was really wonderful day for visit, which probably won't be possible when weather conditions worsen significantly. As soon as it gets colder - summits will be covered with snow, paths won't be "attackable". We'll go again this year, but probably not possible. L.p.
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| dunjo17. 12. 2012 |
Next weekend I'm heading to Stol. I'm wondering if anyone knows how close you can get to Valvasorjev dom by car, since it's a bit far from Poljana. Which trail to Stol would be the nicest in this winter time? We were thinking of going up the Žirovniška and down the Završniška back to V.dom. Thanks everyone for the info. LP, Aleš
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| dunjo17. 12. 2012 |
Sorry! Down the Zabrški. LP
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| pantani118. 12. 2012 |
On Thursday I'm heading to Stol, maybe someone knows what the trail is like regarding snow!!! LP.
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| dare2918. 12. 2012 |
Like this it was on Sunday.
We started at the lake, to Valvasorjev dom there's little snow. Below Prižnica Saturday's rain turned to snow, and from there on there's not much new snow either. Higher up the gully variant might be better, at least it held us well on the way down. We didn't go to the hut.
The road was already icy lower down, I don't know how far one could drive by car.
enjoy,
Dare
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| zizi30. 04. 2013 |
What is the snow situation like on Stol?
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| mukica30. 04. 2013 |
On Saturday snow began a little above Prižnica, before only individual patches that don't bother. But it's south-facing, so we didn't need winter gear. Only clothes because the weather was bad
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| zizi1. 05. 2013 |
Thanks!
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| Grenaleva17. 06. 2013 |
We visited Stol on Saturday - excellent tour to start the hiking season - snow is only left on the scree at the top, which you cross for 10 m length, otherwise a beautiful path and very friendly caretakers at Prešeren Lodge just below the summit. The greatest pleasure is upon return to Valvasorjev dom, where they placed loungers next to the benches like at ski resorts, so it's really a beautiful stop at the hut when arriving back in the valley.
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| Jure7112. 07. 2013 |
Hardly do we get to the car and hail starts, we just managed to complete the tour. Nice scenic tour... I recommend as a circular tour via Belščica past the bivouac (in ruins) and then back to Valvasor
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| dolinar.darjan3. 08. 2013 |
My son and I started from Valvasorjeva koča. The hike is pleasant. I admit, however, that we didn't have much stamina for such an ascent. But at the top a pleasant surprise awaited us, wonderful views in all directions. We couldn't get enough of looking. With full pleasant feelings we were incredibly quickly back from the top to the car. I would like to thank everyone who takes care of the marking and maintenance of the path. Best regards to all.
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| wanyola18. 08. 2013 |
Finally we also stepped onto the top of Stol, yesterday, 17.8. The day was wonderful, suitable for hiking. Quite a lot of stamina is needed, because the steepness doesn't let up and demands all strength right to the top.
Huge crowd on the top, barely found a spot to rest. At Prešeren hut we treated ourselves to a slightly overpriced beer-3.90 EUR, but we really needed it. On the way back to Valvasorjev dom we also had a snack in the form of ričet and it was really tasty.
Then we had a good two hours drive home.
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| Bojan_A18. 08. 2013 |
I too was descending this trail yesterday between 14:30 and 16:00. Maybe we met
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| Marx19. 08. 2013 |
Quite steep, but an extremely enjoyable path. Maybe even the nicest path I've ever climbed. The views are wonderful, nature unique. I recommend it to everyone!
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| Micky1. 09. 2013 |
Yesterday I was on Stol. Beautiful day, but up there like an anthill. The road to Valvasorjev dom is catastrophic. Next time I'll leave the car in Žirovnica. Because parking is also very disorganized. They should already inform in the valley that it's senseless to drive up with the car.
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| wanyola1. 09. 2013 |
no, the road isn't that bad, we were there on 17.8. It's a mountain road after all, we've driven on much worse ones.
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| velkavrh2. 09. 2013 |
As far as I know, there's a barrier below. Already last year they said they would start closing it, because there's parking for 100 cars below, but then you have to walk to Valvasor, which seems like an hour to me. I much prefer going to Stol from Ljubelj, even though it's twice as long.
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| mukica2. 09. 2013 |
@Micky, the road to Valvasorjev dom is in solid condition, they tidy it up at the end of every winter season, but given the amount of cars time does its thing...if you had asked before you would have gotten info that there's mass visitation and parking problems...everyone would like to drive higher to the starting point
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| otherside7. 10. 2013 |
Hi,
tomorrow I would go to Stol but the weather is giving me problems... but who knows what it will be like? Here it says sun, but ARSO says cloudy and foggy.
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| Darxta7. 10. 2013 |
Provreme for Žirovnica says there will be only high cloudiness in the morning.
Il Meteo says there will be light rain in Jesenice in the morning.
The decision is always yours.
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| čili27. 10. 2013 |
Yesterday we went up the Žirovnica path and back. Nice hike on a sunny day. View from the summit unforgettable. Recommend to all who have some fitness.
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| čili27. 10. 2013 |
Yesterday we went up the Žirovnica path and back. Nice hike on a sunny day. View from the summit unforgettable. Recommend to all who have some fitness.
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| Fero11. 11. 2013 |
Hello, do you know how the tracks to Stol look these days? Is it still possible to go there without crampons and ice axe?
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| Bojan_L12. 11. 2013 |
Darxta, can it be public? I'm also interested
Thanks
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| Darxta12. 11. 2013 |
Can do, but some details to skip and some things to omit...
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Conditions depend very much on which day you want to go. Currently there is snow above about 1700m in Karavanke, likely to fall a bit more today. At 2200m snow should stay for a few more days, however temperatures will rise above zero, (especially when sun starts to shine) which will start to melt the snow, and it will become soft enough to walk without crampons. However, if you want to go tomorrow, I would highly recommend crampons.
Ice axe is not needed, terrain from Slovenia side is not that difficult to be needing one at the moment (at least not above snow line).
Shout if you need any more info.
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http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/snegraz.html
http://www.arso.gov.si/vreme/napovedi%20in%20podatki/gore.html
Address about snow conditions in the mountains, but you will need Google Translate (info not available on site in English).
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Maybe last question - do you know how is it going to be with touristic marking on the path? Because I am quite afraid that red and white circle marks will be covered by snow at higher parts...
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I think there should not be any problem with the markings, they should be on the trees and higher up you won't miss the path (it doesn't go anywhere else but up). It should be visible from the hikers before you (Stol is visited a lot in any conditions). I hope you can somehow drive or get a ride to Valvazorjev dom, this is the most common starting point.
I recommend Žirovniška pot to the top (steeper and more direct one) and Zabreška pot on the way down (less steep, goes next to the hut, which is closed now).
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The forecast has changed since yesterday. Maybe snow tomorrow, no sun on Thursday. In any case - carefully!!
If anyone else has something to add, please do
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| Tad15020. 12. 2013 |
With girlfriend I'd go this weekend to Stol via Zirovniška pot, of course with crampons and ice axe, what's the path like? Anyone been to Stol this week? Lp
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| jax20. 12. 2013 |
This weekend there is possibility of minor precipitation, but likely too little for major changes in conditions. So, conditions should be fine. Path almost certainly well trodden.
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| pokerface28. 05. 2014 |
Has anyone been to Stol last week? What are the snow conditions? Thanks in advance for your reply! Best regards and happy trails!
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| Janez_Radovljica28. 05. 2014 |
I was on Stol on May 23rd. Almost no snow to the hut, but if you choose the direct path to the summit, there's still quite a bit of snow in the gully, in my opinion more than 1m. The snow was surface-softened but didn't give way.
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| pokerface28. 05. 2014 |
Thanks for the info Janez.
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| modrook1220. 06. 2014 |
Does anyone know how passable it is now? Is there still much snow?
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| _d_22. 06. 2014 |
Report from today, no snow on this path, only in the gully and just a few meters, winter gear not needed.
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| matej198727. 06. 2014 |
Hello. Yesterday 26.6.2014 I left hiking poles at the wood storage on the Žirovnica path and carried a couple of logs to Prešeren hut. On the way back I of course forgot the poles. So, if anyone descends this path to the valley and happens to find them, I recommend myself. Anyway, the finder has a beer on me!
Best regards
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| stilc882. 07. 2014 |
Yesterday I was on Stol. Nice, not too demanding path.
@matej1987: Since I read your comment before, I of course looked for the poles. Unfortunately around the storage no sign or sound of them
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| Bojan_A2. 07. 2014 |
Do you happen to have any photo of Begunjščica from Stol? I'm interested if Smokuški plaz is small.
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| biokill3. 07. 2014 |
Is there any snow, or could one go in hiking sneakers?
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| francimedved3. 07. 2014 |
You don't hike in high mountains in hiking sneakers.
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| borutpovse3. 07. 2014 |
What high mountains, I wouldn't even go to Šmarna in sneakers. What are you thinking biokil.
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| Enka3. 07. 2014 |
So-called hiking sneakers like some Salomons or similar are meant, of course on the Žirovniška to Stol (in dry conditions) it's really not such a sinful idea.
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| bagi3. 07. 2014 |
@Bojan .... the avalanche is small
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| balon25. 07. 2014 |
I'm wondering if anyone has been to Stol recently and what the path is like. Maybe there's some snow somewhere?
Thanks,
Baloncki
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| klm25. 07. 2014 |
No patch of snow anywhere on the path.
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| klm25. 07. 2014 |
No patch of snow anywhere on the path.
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| mashams12. 08. 2014 |
hello, I'm wondering if you can drive further than to Valvasorjev dom by car. thanks for the answer
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| valerija11212. 08. 2014 |
No, beyond the hut there is only a footpath.
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| Rokovnjacica22. 08. 2014 |
From Završnica to Valvasorjev dom... please, can someone tell me what the path is like... steep?
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| Rokovnjacica28. 08. 2014 |
The path from Završnica to Valvasorjev dom is very pleasant, also suitable for an afternoon hike after work. Hiked on 22nd t.m.
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| pmr3024. 10. 2014 |
Nice greetings from Croatia! We are preparing for Stol this Sunday, so I thought, does anyone know if there is snow up there? What is the path to the top like...? We are going up from Valvasorjev dom through Žirovniška pot. Thanks...
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| karavanke1. 11. 2014 |
On 31.10.2014 I was at Stol, I went from Žirovniška planina. The trail is fine, there was some snow in places, but easily passable, in the morning hours it's still a bit frozen, so caution is not amiss. It was a nice sunny day, nice views and real balm for the soul. I returned via the longer path, which is not so steep, to Zabreška planina. There was a bit more wind-blown snow on the trail, but trodden.
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| karavanke25. 11. 2014 |
I join the opinion, "like in paradise," because I too have been present at such an unforgettable event.
Best regards and many more beautiful pleasures.
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| shorty_994. 03. 2015 |
hi.
does anyone happen to know what the trail to Stol is like? and how far can you drive by car?
i plan to go up friday morning, if it's not blowing too hard.
thanks.
best
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| schmid5. 03. 2015 |
shorty_99, if you're going to Stol (Žirovniška pot) tomorrow by chance, I'd appreciate conditions info
Thanks
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| tomas5. 03. 2015 |
Almost everything is written under current conditions.
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| subaru9. 04. 2015 |
Visited Stol yesterday. Conditions in the morning were great, so at Prižnica we descended into the gully and up it to the summit. Beautifully frozen, no sinking snow. Both jumps iced over.
On the way back down the gully, the sun had warmed it a bit and it softened slightly.
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| misace10. 04. 2015 |
Hi Subaru, we probably met on the descent hope to meet again sometime somewhere.
I came via Zabreznica on the Finžgar path, in the morning still nicely compact, snow from Betonska onwards. Towards the top warmer and a bit more wading. Crampons and ice axe mandatory.
But too windy for the summit for me.
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| slavkoo2. 07. 2015 |
On Saturday I'm heading to Stol and I'm wondering what the road to Valvasorjev dom is like? I have a fairly low car....
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| marezt2. 07. 2015 |
No problem...you can get there with any car
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| tjas_a14. 07. 2015 |
Hi. I'm wondering what the options are for getting to Stol with a dog? If possible, recommend somewhere for ascent/descent.
thanks for the answers
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| franca14. 07. 2015 |
For a dog accustomed to long mountain paths and with appropriate fitness, suitable paths are from Valvasorjev dom and from Zelenica.
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| Shuensha26. 08. 2015 |
Are there any animals grazing on this path? I'm going on Saturday with two dogs, they'll be on a leash but we all get a bit tense when we meet a cow, sheep or horse
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| Enka26. 08. 2015 |
If memory serves me right, you just pass by the fence and there is no direct contact.
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| Majdag26. 08. 2015 |
.. At the hut on Žirovniška planina, there is sometimes livestock near the path. The section is short, a bit deeper into the forest and there won't be an unpleasant encounter. But it is really annoying, cows don't like dogs. I have the same problems..
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| natasja26. 08. 2015 |
Yes, at Žirovniška planina there is a fence with horses and the path goes through this fence. But as majdag wrote, the section is not long.
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| anzecokl27. 08. 2015 |
Today on a beautiful morning to Stol from Valvasorjev dom and via airy shortcut directly to the lake at Završnica... Short VIDEO here.
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| Shuensha28. 08. 2015 |
Thanks for the info....tomorrow we'll climb it to Stol the dogs will enjoy it
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| dkrajnc278. 09. 2015 |
Hello,
I'm also going to Stol for the first time on Sunday, just wondering informatively about the following. How long does it take from the parking lot in Žirovnica (apparently some inn with bears) to Valvasorjev dom? Thanks, have fun
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| dkrajnc278. 09. 2015 |
And one more question buzzing in my head.
On picture number 41 I have a junction and we can head towards Celovška koča. Is there then a circular path back to Valvasorjev dom or do we have to go back from Celovška along the same path to Prešernova koča. Thanks
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| Daaam8. 09. 2015 |
The parking lot is another kilometer further from the hunting lodge (inn with bears) at the lake in Završnica. Normal walking to Valvasorjev dom is a bit more than an hour. If going from Stol towards Celovška koča, there's an option to descend a bit from Celovška koča and go via the climbing path to Stol. But that would already be quite a big loop.
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| iUnknown26. 09. 2015 |
This looks fairly easy from the pictures. Probably could reach the summit without issue in about an hour and a half, since it says 3 hours above and only 1080 m elevation gain?
Just thinking of going up tomorrow, but 1.5 hours is a bit short for a Sunday tour.
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| megalodon26. 09. 2015 |
Judging by this: "The best men's time was in 2006, when the Grintovec mountain run first counted for the WMRA Cup, set by mountain running legend Jonathan Wyatt (New Zealand), who covered nearly 2000 m elevation gain in 1:15:43."
it can be done much faster, in ca. 40-45 min .
If 1080 m elevation is too little, start in Žirovnica and you have 1678.
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| Enka26. 09. 2015 |
And if that's still not enough walking for you, you can extend to Vajnež and return via an unmarked path to Valvasorjev dom and back to the starting point
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| ljubitelj gora26. 09. 2015 |
Go all the way to Struška and return back to Valvasorjev dom. Or it's better to start from the valley towards Stol.
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| VesnaJager24. 10. 2015 |
Hello, has anyone been to Stol recently? I'm interested in how much snow there is? A person who is not the most resourceful and adaptable to snowy conditions would be going along. Thanks for the reply. I wish you safe steps in the mountains. Best regards
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| aljasz0010. 12. 2015 |
Hi, I'm wondering how much snow there is on the path? Is there any or can one go without any ''crampons''?
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| pohodnica1110. 12. 2015 |
Hi, the last half hour below the summit there is some snow, but it's trampled, partly a bit icy. No problem getting up without crampons, but it's certainly good to have them on the way down.
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| zabava18. 07. 2016 |
despite forecasts of strong wind on Saturday, I set off to Stol with my daughters and a small dog. The start was quite okay, but below the summit it really blew. Real bora, cold, almost freezing, almost blew us away. But we reached the hut. Frozen, scared, windswept. Where with the dog? If outside, it would blow it away. And here comes my great praise to the hut warden. I thank him most warmly for letting us in with the dog. Thank you!
We refreshed a bit, the bread was more than excellent, and then back into the bora. But the day was still nice, new experiences with a happy ending. We'll go to Stol again.
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| zabava18. 07. 2016 |
Despite forecasts of strong wind on Saturday, I set off to Stol with my daughters and a small dog. The start was okay, but below the summit it was really blowing. Real bora, cold, almost freezing, it almost blew us away. But we reached the hut. Frozen, scared, windswept. Where with the dog? If outside, it would blow it away. And here comes my great praise for the hut keeper. Thank you very much for letting us in with the dog. Thanks!
We refreshed ourselves a bit, the bread was more than excellent, and then back into the bora. But the day was nice anyway, new experiences with a happy ending. We'll go to Stol again.
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| ms_primoz18. 07. 2016 |
Despite the forecasted wind on Stol. Bad decision. I hope you learned something from "this school".
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| pikica119. 07. 2016 |
@zabava, it was really nice to read your post. Really nice that you could all go into the hut, including the dog. If the weather is such that you can stay outside, we don't insist on going into the hut anyway. But in such weather it's nice to be able to rest a bit in shelter. May there be as many such keepers as possible.
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| Blazz0927. 08. 2016 |
LP
Tomorrow I'd like to conquer Mount Stol with my better half. We both have quite some issues with fear of heights (dizziness), so I'm looking only for easier marked paths. I'd start from Valvasorjev dom, up the Žirovniška pot, down the Zabreška pot.
Is the path suitable for us? This year we've already summited Grintovec and Storžič, so fitness shouldn't be a problem.
Every opinion is very welcome.
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| Blazz0927. 08. 2016 |
Which of the above paths should I use for ascent and which for descent? From the pictures, Zabreška pot looks more demanding?
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| valerija11227. 08. 2016 |
Žirovniška up, Zabreška down. Enjoy!
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| Enka27. 08. 2016 |
As Valerija wrote. No issues for vertigo sufferers on either trail. If you go early, you'll get shade on the Žirovniška trail, which will be very welcome tomorrow.
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| awirex15. 09. 2016 |
Yesterday my wife and I did the Žirovniška pot up and back. The path is not demanding. We followed the recommendations and started early, so there was shade on the Žirovniška pot in the morning, which was very good. At the top we didn't have much of a view because of the fog, but every now and then the view opened up enough for a photo. Descent without major issues.
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| Amoremio26. 11. 2016 |
Greetings from Zagreb,
Tomorrow we would go to Stol, does anyone know if there's snow up there, so we take ice axe and crampons or not necessary..?
Thanks..!
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| Janez73 26. 11. 2016 |
No snow, except some patches of snow. Crampons might not be superfluous, just in case.
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| Janez73 26. 11. 2016 |
The forecast for tomorrow is not favorable...
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| anazala22. 03. 2017 |
Stol is a fantastic mountain. Already from the road it looks mighty and the pride of Slovenia. When you reach the top, the effort is rewarded. Victory is not at the top. Victory is when you safely return to the valley.
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| naJcismoT6. 06. 2017 |
Which of the paths to Stol is the "most beautiful" and if possible so that you can then descend to the starting point via another?
Is there any path to ascend to the summit along the ridge that can be seen from Lake Bled?
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| naJcismoT7. 06. 2017 |
Thanks for the reply, what about the road to the starting point?
...it says it's usually very bad?
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| anazala28. 06. 2017 |
believe me. the road is good. no problem at all. you shorten the path quite a bit, because the path to the hut is not that interesting. it's interesting from the hut onwards. when the scenic viewpoints start opening up. when looking, stop. it's good to watch your feet while walking, not around. it's not demanding. just need to be a bit careful. hiking poles, lots of water, hiking boots and you'll have a fantastic day.
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| anazala23. 07. 2017 |
Can one perhaps get to the hut by bus? 54 people. Most are elderly people. Otherwise hikers. I'm asking so that the path isn't too long and demanding due to too many hours of hiking.
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| leena23. 07. 2017 |
Yesterday up the Žirovniška, down Zabreška valley, I lost my mobile phone. Did perhaps someone find it yesterday?
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| Luigi8119. 08. 2017 |
Yesterday did a nice circular tour-Žirovniška gor, Zabreška dol. Altogether good 3 hours, really nice tour, weather super, only too many people for my taste Good preparation for Triglav
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| zavratčan19. 09. 2017 |
How is the snow situation up there now?
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| redbull19. 09. 2017 |
It hasn't stopped snowing yet and you're already curious
There is snow and surely not a little.
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| Jurck.SLO23. 09. 2017 |
Today
nice early trip to Stol.. no crowds in the morning.. after 9 o'clock it started a bit..
Views perfect... A bit of snow to wash the shoes
on the slope of Mali Stol.. and then from the valley between the Stols to the top there be careful.. it hasn't melted yet... so there's snow on top!! Excellent impression spoiled by the bus driver at Valvasorjev dom who blocked us in and didn't show up anywhere for about 1h! But the trip wonderful... Lp
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| Zdenkob4. 11. 2017 |
I was on Stol today via this path. Snow is just remnants, but it was quite windy and at least while I was at the summit, fog banks were passing by, so the view was only to the Austrian side. The road to Valvasorjev dom is drivable, but quite battered.
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| ŽigaVol20. 01. 2018 |
What is the current condition of the road to Valvasorjev dom?
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| Mirahj21. 05. 2018 |
Does anyone know the current snow conditions? Thanks and best regards.
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| Hribolazec8117. 06. 2018 |
Can you advise which path from Valvasorjev dom is nicer and better, the Žirovniška or the Zabreška?
Thanks
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| Gogl17. 06. 2018 |
Both are nice and good
Žirovniška is steeper and you're quickly at the top. Best is up the Žirovniška and down the Zabreška for a nice loop.
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| Enka18. 06. 2018 |
Exactly so, Žirovniška is super for ascent, mornings also shaded. Zabreška is a bit longer with gentler gradient, super for descent. The whole loop is wonderful.
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| partex1. 07. 2018 |
Nice greetings! I'd like to know which path you recommend if we have a dog companion. They are experienced hikers but I don't know the paths to Stol so caution isn't superfluous, asking costs nothing Best, Tomi
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| serajko1. 07. 2018 |
Regards
Both paths are suitable for small and medium-sized dogs. Through the pasture, definitely on a leash!!
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| Vassago22. 09. 2018 |
Wonderful paths for mountain lovers, but I would change the Žirovniška pot from "easy" to "moderately difficult", namely the final part is quite steep in my opinion, which is especially noticeable if you have, say, 10-20kg in your backpack. In case of more load, the ascent will be a solid challenge. The path is also long, so the entries regarding difficulty need a slight correction. Žirovniška is easy in the initial part. I agree with the comment of Ms. Valerija112 above, who mentions a circular hike, i.e. Žirovniška up, Zabreška down. The views are spectacular. How beautiful our little country is can be seen especially from the summits.
My experience regarding helmet - It's not bad to have one (I didn't have it, but I'll be more careful in the future) to avoid unpleasant moments. One single stone is enough to turn a pleasant tour into an unpleasant, potentially very dangerous experience. During the ascent, I had to dodge rolling stones from hikers ahead of me twice, one rolled quite far down the valley.
Safety first, they say, right Good luck
VIDEO GALLERY of the hike
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| Daaam22. 09. 2018 |
Vassago- the path is easy.. even if it's steep, that doesn't mean it's difficult, but of course it's more strenuous than a flat one .. It has been explained several times on these pages that paths are classified as difficult and very difficult based on technical difficulties on the path, not how steep it is. ....but nobody carries 20 kg on their back when going to Stol....even 10 kg in normal conditions is exaggeration..
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| radagremvhribe22. 09. 2018 |
the path ratings are very simplified, it's not just easy, but long and steep at times or always steep and long, in short, it simply doesn't describe everything on the path
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| zavest22. 09. 2018 |
Path ratings are not simplified at all, but tied to the technical difficulty of the path, which has only three levels (the term "easy" path is not the most fortunate and is often used in multiple meanings). More about this is written in other discussions or can be quickly found with Google help.
Therefore, before the trip, it is necessary to check the elevation difference and/or path length, together with the official time required for the path.
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| potpodnoge22. 09. 2018 |
Little helper for quick assessment of path difficulty in the mountains:
Easy path
is a path where you don't need to use hands while walking. When such a path crosses a steep slope, it is wide enough to allow safe walking even for less experienced hikers. It only requires caution and fitness from them.
There is no warning on the path.
Difficult path
leads through more difficult sections where we use hands for safety. Any safety devices are intended for the hiker's safety and are not necessarily needed to overcome difficult sections.
At the starts of such paths, there is a warning DIFFICULT PATH on the sign. On new direction signs, there is a triangle engraved before the path name.
Very difficult path
is one where hand use is necessary for walking. Safety devices allow passage through difficult sections where climbing rope belay would otherwise be needed. On such a path, an ice axe is often needed, sometimes even crampons and helmet. It is suitable only for well-trained and physically fit hikers. Not suitable for people with vertigo. It is recommended to go with a mountain guide or someone who knows the path well.
At the starts of such paths, there is a warning VERY DIFFICULT PATH on the sign. On new direction signs, there is a triangle with an exclamation mark before the path name.
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| Vassago23. 09. 2018 |
Thanks to everyone for the replies, especially #potpodnoge for the details and explanations. I hope my comment above wasn't taken badly...Personally, I'm glad for the new knowledge, with which I'll be able to better assess the rating before the ascent. Best regards to all and safe steps.
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| Farki8117. 12. 2018 |
I'm wondering if the road to Valvasorjev dom is passable for passenger vehicles in winter.
Thanks for the answers Lp
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| Majdag18. 12. 2018 |
In winter they sledge and the road is closed. Currently there is no snow yet, but the road is icy in places. Just these days firefighters rescued a vehicle that skidded off the road.
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| Farki8121. 12. 2018 |
Where is then the best starting point for a winter tour to Stol?
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| Farki8123. 12. 2018 |
Is there a hiking trail from there, or do you have to go by road to Valvasorjev dom?
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| ben23. 12. 2018 |
5 minutes on the road, then left onto the marked hiking trail!
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| Farki8126. 12. 2018 |
Here, I was up there today. Road drivable almost to Valvasorjev dom, a couple of bends before the hut are icy. On Žirovniška gora, on Zabreška dolina. The path is so "mixed grill" icy in places, compacted snow in others, and completely dry in some. For such terrain it's good to pack "mini crampons" in the backpack. But when we reach snowy terrain, then happily put on the big crampons on the feet and ice axe in hand.
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| mohorko5. 01. 2019 |
Was up there today and it was super, views to fall down . Path a bit icy in places, so crampons mandatory. Could drive by car to Valvasorjev dom.
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| michael667. 01. 2019 |
Is there any snow in the gully from Prižnica to the top?
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| bizmbazm7. 01. 2019 |
About 10 cm of snow on top of Stol. Wind-packed, yesterday I went up without crampons, but recommend them for the descent. Icy in places. Yesterday it was gusting fully at times, immediately greater feeling of cold, although the weather was warm and nice.
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| crnistane25. 02. 2019 |
Please, what are the current conditions like to the top of Stol from Valvasorjev dom.....
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| mirank25. 02. 2019 |
Why don't you just look a bit to the left under current conditions
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| crnistane25. 02. 2019 |
....thanks, yes it is...I really went right over it.....
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| franjo6619. 04. 2019 |
What are the current conditions like for the summit of Stol from Valvasorjev dom?
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| MajaDenis31. 07. 2019 |
This trail described for walking.... can it be shortened any further? Can you drive closer by car? It's that I'm worried if our kids will make it to the top. I would like that. Thanks, regards
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| zavest31. 07. 2019 |
You can drive minimally closer to one of the pastures (Žirovniška or Zabreška), but it has negligible impact on the total excursion time and you don't gain much.
Of course, consider that the kids will be equally (or more) tired from the descent, especially if you go down the flatter "Zabreška" path. Been there, done that, and the descent was actually more strenuous for them.
There are alternatives with less walking and comparable nice views along the way (Peca, Obir, above Sella Neveo...)
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| zvezdica_zaspanka19. 08. 2019 |
Uff, this road to Valvasorjev dom is quite strenuous by car! I was seriously worried about the undercarriage and shock absorbers But in the end, persistence and patience paid off.
The path is nice and steadily steep, but not overly strenuous. I went down via Zabreška, the views are great and the path pleasant, only the last part drags a bit ...
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| ljubitelj gora25. 12. 2019 |
Now the start of the gravel road is a bit further ahead and then to the left.
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| rLog1. 01. 2020 |
Hello,
I'm wondering if it's possible to reach the hut normally by car & if the path is without major features regarding the season.. thanks
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| ljubitelj gora1. 01. 2020 |
The road is dry, winter equipment is mandatory to the top of Stol.
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| rLog1. 01. 2020 |
Thank you very much for the info!
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| PetraPetra8. 09. 2020 |
Hello.
I'm interested in the current accessibility of the gravel road to Valvasorjev dom. Is it possible to reach the hut by personal car? Thanks in advance for the answer.
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| Loni8. 09. 2020 |
Call Rok at Valvasorjev dom, he'll tell you. His number is 051 328 648.
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| Uporabnik hribov17. 09. 2020 |
Hello,
I'm interested in parking along the road leading to Valvasorjev dom? In front of the hut I read that parking is allowed only for hut guests... From the lake below, it's a bit long for me (if you add 1.5 hours from the lake to Valvasorjev dom to these three hours)..
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| valerija11217. 09. 2020 |
No problem, we've always found space along the road too. Good luck.
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| Kamen4026. 09. 2020 |
The road is good. Parking at the hut is also no problem.
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| _Maša229. 09. 2020 |
Hello!
On Thursday I plan to go to the summit. What are the conditions like? I'm particularly interested in how much snow there is and whether crampons or full winter gear are needed? Regards
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| Spelcarocket30. 09. 2020 |
Yesterday I was on the neighbor of Stol (Vajnež). If it weren't for two skiers ahead of me who had blazed the trail, I would have gotten tired quickly and possibly lost the way to the summit. I didn't need crampons or ice axe, but at least gaiters are recommended. Snow about 30cm+. In places it sank up to the knee. Good luck.
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| J.P.24. 04. 2021 20:22:29 |
You can park at the hut or nearby. The road is completely dry. The snow line is currently a bit higher, above about 1300m. Regards
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| Mark79. 05. 2021 17:46:21 |
I'm wondering if winter gear is currently needed for this trail?
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| capraibex17. 03. 2022 18:32:11 |
Hello, does anyone know how the road to Valvasorjev dom is passable?
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| J.P.17. 03. 2022 20:19:39 |
A colleague was there on 12.2. and left the car a bit lower (30-45 min walk) because he couldn't make the bend. He added that he would go with better tires. Lp
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| ljubitelj gora17. 03. 2022 20:28:32 |
Last time I parked about 500m before Valvasorjev dom, maybe it's possible to reach the hut now.
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| BT8817. 03. 2022 22:50:46 |
It's easy with summer tires
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| ljubitelj gora18. 03. 2022 14:43:00 |
They sniffed out a new source of income. Obviously we won't be welcome there anymore. We'll go somewhere else.
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| Majdag18. 03. 2022 19:14:33 |
We expected this from the start of the arranged parking lot, nothing new. Someone has to cover the maintenance costs and that's fair. In the past there were no cars but hikers still went to the mountains anyway. The old times are returning, if someone doesn't like it they just don't go there..
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| Jusk18. 03. 2022 20:01:11 |
You're right, we won't go to those parts anymore but is there really such a problem with this parking lot? Last year I was there quite often and always found a spot to park, it was never 100% full..
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| ljubitelj gora18. 03. 2022 22:24:43 |
Depends how much parking will cost, somehow I'll have to stuff the bike into the car and even if the roof collapses I'll finally ride the bike after a long time.
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| BT8820. 03. 2022 10:54:34 |
Typical Gorenjska
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| guest223. 08. 2022 15:04:59 |
Access by car to Valvasorjev dom is chargeable. There is now a barrier in the valley. Payment of 10€ is possible by card, a bit lower at the parking lot also in cash. The forest road is (consequently) also nicely maintained.
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| Kafetarca4. 08. 2022 14:43:02 |
In a way, I welcome the fee for using the forest road, because there used to be really terrible crowds there and parking everywhere... Obviously, most people like to park as high as possible for those two hours of walking. Down by the lake it's 50 cents per hour, which I think is a perfectly fine price, and there's also a nice trail to the hut, so no panic at all.
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| lepenatka9. 08. 2022 09:26:27 |
Is it possible to pay directly with a card or with the Easypark app?
Regina
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| Peterkv1. 09. 2022 17:39:28 |
I'm interested in how many parking spaces there are, or if it's hard to get a suitable parking spot at Valvasorjev dom? Is it possible that even with payment you don't get one?
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| ljubitelj gora22. 04. 2023 23:53:25 |
If I read correctly, they collect toll from May onwards to October. From November to end of April the barrier is raised. You can park also a couple of 100 m before Valvasorjev dom or even lower along the road.
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| Quintius23. 04. 2023 13:00:58 |
I was up yesterday. Quite a few markings have already faded. In the second third of the path, soft snow starts where you sink in. In the dwarf pine belt it sinks in deeply (gaiters mandatory). The last 200 meters of elevation have just right icy snow. Crampons not mandatory, but they make walking much easier. Almost no wind. The descent back was also unpleasant due to the strong thaw.
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| Urska@@@1. 09. 2023 19:55:25 |
How is it with parking and how much do you have to pay?
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| rensul2. 09. 2023 21:42:22 |
Urska©©©-The toll for the road to Valvasorjev dom can be paid at the parking meter with cash or card, via the ParkMeWise app, at the barrier with card. Also via SMS. Price is 10€. More: https://zirovnica.si/parkirisca/
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| zbil20. 02. 2024 12:41:20 |
Greetings!
Has anyone hiked this trail in the last few days? Are crampons needed?
Mountain greetings and safe steps!
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| Janez Seliškar20. 02. 2024 19:44:47 |
An ice axe and helmet also go with crampons.
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| ljubitelj gora20. 02. 2024 23:56:02 |
From picture 22 onwards, the "trail" usually goes straight up or a bit to the side. Always take crampons with you. Last time there were holes from hikers between the dwarf pines, so I preferred to descend the wide gully, you come out at the benches. No jumps. And down about 200-300 m above Završnica there is a prohibition sign to Valvasorjev dom, early afternoon I didn't notice anything stuck on the window from the rangers. They have already tilted the sign.
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| Deki4. 05. 2024 09:06:39 |
Hello, I'm interested if the path is also suitable for a medium-sized dog and approximately in which months there is no snow? Thanks
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| funnyboy4. 05. 2024 14:21:29 |
The path is suitable for a dog if it is sufficiently fit or able to cover such a long path. For a while, you walk on sand or stones, which can irritate dog's paws.
The snow will melt quickly now, if there is no new snowfall it will soon be snow-free. Then until the first snowfall, usually in October or November.
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