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Smejka12. 02. 2009 12:46:36
I'm interested, what UV protection do you recommend for high-altitude sun and snow?
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Medvedka12. 02. 2009 18:02:13
I use factor 30 and apply it about every 2 hours. Now, when the sun isn't strong yet, even less often.
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jprim12. 02. 2009 19:33:04
Well, really winter has been too long and boring, that we're asking such nonsense? Which protective factor? I'd understand which ice axe. Factor? Like we're in elementary school. No offense.
LP!
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viharnik12. 02. 2009 19:46:01
From which logs are you, ajax?! Here is a decent forum of people who live for ideals, virtues and in accordance with nature. Since I am Yogi of the Supreme Divine Mother, let me mention that preserving male power was an old secret of alchemists who sought immortality. Of course this gland in man is an internal secretion gland and not external (by God's design), which means that the seed (water) evaporates with the fire element (in the body), after which warm steam (prana shakti) arises, which renews and rejuvenates all parts of the human body. I will reach exactly almost 40 in 2 years but everyone says I look 10 or 15 years younger. For that meditation is also needed (cleansing, spiritual growth) and exercise in fresh air. With this we turn into a divine child of great powers, protection and support from God. Lp-Rok
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jprim12. 02. 2009 19:49:41
Well, I don't even know what you're trying to say?
Can you keep it short?nasmeh
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tana12. 02. 2009 19:51:17
Sorry, but someone is ripe for "observation".
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viharnik12. 02. 2009 20:06:25
No shortcut to God. The path is long (several lives), now much easier with the help of the supreme incarnation of God, who lives right now on this earth. According to the above description, I can't say it differently. Man is composed of natural elements, fire, water, air, earth, ether, metals. When man is born, invisible vortices (energy chakras-centers) are created, which constantly rotate like a windmill and attract prana (more physical, substantial micro particles), which first create glands in the body that correspond to individual parts of the body (pituitary, epiphysis, thyroid...). All this at a higher level is created by laws of divinities that govern a certain EN. Center or chakra. With the records of glands, the body later arises, grows and develops. There is much more written in books, but knowledge about this does not lead us to enlightenment. Concrete work with meditation (state without thoughts) is needed - only then we open so that divine energies come into us (because if the cup is full of ideas, ego, beliefs that we know everything and know, then the divine cannot reach us). Don't burden yourselves, everything was placed in you at birth, you just need to see the true nature of God and creation - nature.
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jprim12. 02. 2009 20:12:56
Thanks for the answer. But I think discussing your own personal life view on this forum is not appropriate, whether I agree with you or not, because everyone has their own view on life philosophy, therefore ...zmeden
LP!
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viharnik12. 02. 2009 20:21:37
Instead of HAND I edit inappropriate statements, which are not in place on this forum. Few people on this earth see beyond the illusion of modern times...
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FLEKSARCA12. 02. 2009 21:12:10
One or two smokes too many?
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heinz12. 02. 2009 21:47:53
It's interesting that animals we meet on mountain hikes are not burdened with illusions, life philosophies, religions etc., they don't try to see the true nature of God and creation, they don't use protective factors.
By the way, regarding the latter I recommend some expert explanation, because it's increasingly revealed to the public that so-called "protective factors" destroy and accelerate skin cancer formation, - which on high-altitude sun is even several times more likely!
So my answer to the original question: NO FACTOR!).

Well, clearly we humans are less resistant to many things, among others due to too much trust in pharmaceutical and cosmetic lobby. So for myself in this regard I'll seek solution in home medicinal preparations, e.g. in the past we smeared St. John's wort oil against burns etc.
Otherwise some use textile covers too. (example Arabs in desert without shade (and "factors"))..
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triglavski12. 02. 2009 22:02:46
The best protection is to spend as much time as possible on the snow and in the sun.
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teabag12. 02. 2009 22:07:47
viharnik and heinz,

bravo, nothing to add to what's written nasmeh))
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viharnik13. 02. 2009 06:56:07
I've also heard that the higher the cream factor, the worse it performs. Some contraindications arise (sun doesn't reach us, cream reacts chemically), which are not beneficial for the skin. The best is to be as Triglavski said. For burns, natural oils help (St. John's wort, almond), Aloe vera gel made from cactus meat has been proven for millennia because it cools and strongly soothes burns - Bedouins in deserts.
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GITA13. 02. 2009 09:25:30
In my opinion, moderate use of a moderately high protection factor does less damage to the skin than burns, even if we then treat them so "naturally". What "moderate" means depends greatly on skin type. From my experience, factor over 30 is not needed even for the fairest skin. But for protection, I always choose cream with mineral and not chemical filters.
P.S. The comparison with Bedouins is not appropriate...
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turbo13. 02. 2009 14:21:25
Simple question requires a simple answer. Unfortunately not. zmeden
In the morning the sun is less strong, at noon very strong, in the afternoon it weakens. Then it depends on the position, or where you move relative to the sky direction. That is, whether the sun is at your back or in your face. It can shine more from the left or more from the right (then you have to apply more cream to one half of the face than the other). And many many similar details need to be known before deciding what sunscreen you need.
Definitely you need at least two tubes. Lower and higher UV factor of course. Then you have to watch that the cream is waterproof (so sweat doesn't wash it off). Also the cream must protect the skin, especially if it's windy and very cold.
And when you've studied all parameters and are still a bit in doubt, you can also go to the pharmacy or dermatologist. velik nasmeh
But there's also a solution where you won't get burned, and no need to apply cream. Namely: balaclava on head, dark glasses and you're out of trouble !!! eek
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andrej76713. 02. 2009 15:33:28
Yeah, OK, balaclava, but it has to be hellishly windy or at least -15°C to put that on yourself. As for the sun and protection, I very rarely go to the mountains with some cream - maybe it would really be better with some "Arab" veils and covers in the mountains at least in summer - but in this Europe I wouldn't feel safe velik nasmeh by the way, if some American bomber spots you, it drops a little bomb on you jezik
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viharnik13. 02. 2009 16:22:47
As Triglavski already gave good advice, go to the mountains more often now to get pigment, because later in March and April it might really burn. Balaclava is good only to sleep in some winter hut to protect from hypothermia. I'll collect extra pigment already after 24.2 in India, where daytime temperatures are already 33°C (Mumbai-Pune). Cheers!
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geppo13. 02. 2009 18:17:16
Viharnik - take care and send some photo when you return.
Cheers
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heinz13. 02. 2009 19:32:08
Viharnik, if you don't forget, please ask the local people or some Sherpas what UV factor they use and if they know skin cancer! They probably "tear through" cosmetics. Probably around the majestic mountains it's swarming with dermatological clinics and various shops with essential ointments, otherwise the sun would have fried them long ago..
Looking forward to answers!
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heinz13. 02. 2009 22:05:37
INTERESTING ARTICLE FROM LIFESTYLE:

ULTRAVIOLET RADIATION INCLUDES UVC, UVB AND UVA RAYS

Ultraviolet radiation is part of the radiation emitted by the sun towards the earth. Most of it including UV-C and UV-B spectrum is retained or should be retained by our atmosphere, namely its ozone layer. Besides these, there is also the UV-A radiation spectrum, which is still insufficiently researched and causes concern. National Institutes of Health have stated that inclusion of protection against UV-A rays is the "main concern". Current protective agents that protect against UV-B rays give people false security and they stay longer in the sun than they should and expose themselves too much to UV-A rays. People who stay outdoors for a long time won't get burns from UV-B rays, but prolonged exposure to UV-A rays can harm them.

Sunscreens

Sunscreens with protection factors are mainly formulated for absorption of UV-B rays, but let through most UV-A rays that penetrate the skin where they are absorbed by melanocytes (pigment cells that produce melanin), which are involved in the formation of melanin for tanning as well as in the formation of MELANOMA. In addition, UV-A rays have a negative effect on the immune system, acting to suppress it.

Many protective creams contain benzophenone as the active ingredient, which promotes the formation of free radicals. When UV rays activate it, free radicals are formed that seek their missing atom both in the cream ingredients and on the skin surface. Chain reactions can lead to the formation of MELANOMA or other forms of SKIN TUMORS.

Another suspicious component is OCM (octyl methoxycinnamate), present in 90% of all sunscreens. A study published in New Scientist Magazine reveals that cell damage in the body can occur if OCM cream passes from the surface to the inner layers of the skin. In a study in Norway, they found that lab mice suffer cell damage at very low amounts of this ingredient. Some scientists believe UV rays cause skin cancer through combined effect on suppressing the immune system and DNA damage.

Sun is also beneficial

Nevertheless, sun exposure is also beneficial. Almost 75% of vitamin D in our body is produced with the help of UVB rays. Using sunscreens (against UVB rays) drastically reduces vitamin D3 production in the skin. Low amount of this vitamin in the blood is linked to increased risk of tumors in breasts and intestines, and can also accelerate MELANOMA growth. The highest melanoma rates were found precisely in people who regularly used sunscreen.

Although medical authorities still recommend using sunscreens, more and more researchers agree that using sunscreens with filters does not prevent skin cancer, but can even PROMOTE it.

How to act
1. Summarizing recent research, it's wise to follow these recommendations:
2. Don't rely on sunscreens with protection filters protecting us from skin cancer.
3. Try to get natural and moderate tan, unless we are specifically sensitive and prone to burns; in that case avoid the sun (people with fair skin).
4. When outdoors, protect with clothing and headwear too.
5. Don't expose to sun between 10:30 and 16:00.
6. Even in cloudy weather UV rays are present, especially UVA.
7. Only healthy skin will help the sun not to harm us. The best cosmetics for skin is balanced diet with lots of vitamin D3 and vitamin A or beta carotene, if needed as supplement. Proven that 30 mg beta-carotene daily protects our immune system from harmful UVA rays. Diet must not lack antioxidants, vitamin C, E, Omega 3 and selenium that protect skin from UV rays.

Those who have switched to natural cosmetics use natural creams for safe sun exposure that protect skin even from the harshest sun and without artificial filters. Made mostly from African plants, known are shea, cocoa butter, coconut and various African palms.

P.s. "MELANOMA" = SKIN CANCER


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