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heinz17. 09. 2010 22:50:39

GricarA: boletus - like all other mushrooms they are picked and not cut. Grab the stem at the bottom (usually in the ground) and carefully twist the mushroom (fruit body) a bit so it breaks off by itself. Similar to picking tree fruit. Then cover the hole in the ground with soil or leaves etc., to prevent drying out of the mycelium i.e. the underground network from which multiple fruits - mushrooms - sprout on an area.
If we cut mushrooms, we cause the mycelium to dry out through the cut stem parts and thus it dies off consequently..
The knife for mushrooms we carry for cleaning them on site where we (correctly of course) picked them, to leave behind at least some spores that the fruit body drops on the forest surface on this occasion. This ensures mushrooms don't go extinct due to our needs, greed, or even commercial appetites etc.
So no fear for the future of mushrooms only if we handle them properly. Not just by feel, but with certain knowledge.

vanessa_klara18. 09. 2010 19:55:36

if anyone knows what it would mean that the umbrellas (mushrooms) had red lines under the cap??? zmeden

andymann18. 09. 2010 20:06:17

means they are komunajzerji. velik nasmeh

heinz19. 09. 2010 07:28:21

Means they were poisonous. If you had cut it for example, the flesh would be yellow.
Such umbrellas are even deadly dangerous to eat. Hope you didn't run into those and had dealings with them.
Field and forest parasols that are suitable for eating have no red shades at all.
When distinguishing mushrooms, details are always most important.

merkur19. 09. 2010 08:18:23

Heinz, where are your sources on the way of picking mushrooms? (I don't claim you are wrong!)

Namely, different mushroom books teach differently about picking or cutting mushrooms ...

In general, it seems sensible to me not to touch mushrooms you don't know and of course not collect them. If nevertheless (one has to educate oneself somehow) and they are intended for later identification with expert help, then they really must be collected whole. Including the underground part - up to the place where they break off after twisting. Details are important!

Actually the only important difference I advocate compared to Heinz is that well-known mushrooms can be calmly cut off. Of course low to the ground. This avoids damage to the mycelium. Follows cleaning the mushroom and covering, so no drying out occurs. When covering is unnecessary for us, remember for motivation that with this action we also hide the find spot. Such motivation of course doesn't help if the pleasure of Slovenian fovšija that devours the next mushroomer matters more to us!? mežikanje

andymann19. 09. 2010 12:42:05

Correlation between red shades and edibility doesn't hold, since I would long ago be under the daisies then.
Even better than the giant parasol is the red-staining parasol (Macrolepiota rhacodes), which has the feature that it reddens a bit after pressure.
For edible parasols it's characteristic that they have a ring that can be moved.
In the picture edible Red-staining parasol:

joža x19. 09. 2010 12:57:05

I have 1 question for mushroom experts, namely purely from nature conservation view: I find a mushroom and don't intend to pick it, what is better (nature-wise) A: leave the mushroom, after a while someone else will pick it and take it from the forest, B: trample the mushroom, kick and crush it so it stays in the forest

ljubitelj gora19. 09. 2010 13:08:54

Leave the mushroom, I suspect that mushroomers kick mushrooms.

JTrogar19. 09. 2010 19:51:31

Picked less than an hour ago.

geppo19. 09. 2010 20:07:43

Janez thanks, I'll come to your yard when I have time!!
Lp

robi1420. 09. 2010 00:11:34

I also picked just over 80 pieces yesterday... nasmeh

merkur20. 09. 2010 09:08:17

Good "catch". Congratulations!
They must have been tiny (2.5 dkg average), to fit 80 into the allowed 2 kg. mežikanje

Roughly what were the temperatures at "your" spots these days? Lowest night? Highest day? Thanks!

heinz20. 09. 2010 21:08:55

About sources so much: whoever doubts some data, let them check them - as much as possible. There are lots. If doubting helps someone, let it be. But worth checking.
About temperatures, I wouldn't, as I don't follow precisions (find them in daily reports). More about altitude differences, which also mean temp differences. On the first, chanterelles in bigger quantities (Gorenjska) now lower - below foothills. Up top a bit too cold. But they'll appear higher soon - not all ("rounds") same kind.
Sometimes lower, sometimes higher, once coniferous, once deciduous forest, grass etc. All true. Porcini, summer or autumn, need specific weather (temp, humidity etc), while lunar phases that once mattered, lately don't affect growth much (or at all).