Lisca-very demanding mountain trail
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| MANGRT18. 06. 2015 21:41:53 |
This year PD Lisca celebrates 110 years of operation and for this occasion they opened a climbing route to Lisca, which nicely spices up the approach to the summit. Equipped with steel cable for self-belaying and lots of steps and pegs. The route has five pitches with the hardest-last one, which is short but overhanging.
I recommend it to anyone hurrying in this valley who likes something a bit different.
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| lencka18. 06. 2015 23:02:22 |
Where is the starting point, parking...
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| mailman19. 06. 2015 04:48:50 |
You park below at Mastnak, go further up the road and right into the forest on the marked trail. It then brings you above Cirje, where you can choose hiking or that one.
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| irska19. 06. 2015 06:33:21 |
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| mailman19. 06. 2015 06:58:05 |
I'm a local, please! I used to hike to Lisca when nothing was marked yet! For that little climbing no need to drive right under the wall, better to warm up a bit, so from below, from Mastnak there's a marked path to Lisca and it's just the right hike. Then as you wish, one is easier, this one is harder!
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| Jany19. 06. 2015 13:46:16 |
For my taste, the route is a bit too "bolted".
Definitely a nice variation though.
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| ms_primoz19. 06. 2015 13:52:23 |
just go one meter to the right or left.
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| irska20. 06. 2015 17:27:22 |
Mailman, to Lisca from Mastnak I go many times too  , it's really a fine path. The official stance of the "local" mountaineering club recommends starting from Cirje or Podgorica - so your exclamation marks aren't needed . Mainly I gave the link because of the difficulty rating.
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| mailman21. 06. 2015 09:58:48 |
Yeah, I get it, didn't mean anything bad, just the description makes it sound like no walking access but only by car. Straight from the steering wheel boom into the wall! actually you can get really sweaty in a good half hour from below!
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| mkonci6. 07. 2015 12:38:37 |
For training it's great, only the last part can make some problems... well, the second time I made it 
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| Marx9. 07. 2015 18:51:16 |
I know this isn't thankful, but still I'd like someone to compare that climbing route with others.
For example, is it easier than Pogačnik's path on Grmada, or Gonžarjeva peči?
I'd like to try it, but from me to Sevnica it's three hours by car no matter if I go through Brežice or maybe via Rogaška, Celje and then to Zidani most...
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| zico109. 07. 2015 21:20:13 |
Marx, the route is harder than Pogačnik's on Grmada, especially the last part.... it's also longer than the mentioned one.
Still it's easier than Gonzarca....
From the description I guess you're from Maribor area or at least somewhere that direction. Closest to you for sure is to leave highway at Dramlje and drive past Sentjur towards Planina pri Sevnici and on to Sevnica....
Or second option Podčetrtek-Bistrica ob Sotli-Podsreda-Senovo-Brestanica-Sevnica
those mentioned routes are definitely closer...
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| zico109. 07. 2015 21:22:19 |
p.s. The route is interesting, from the top you can quickly get back to the start, so it's a sin not to climb it multiple times in one day.
After the tour obligatory stop at the hut where they have very friendly prices for drinks ;-)
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| Marx9. 07. 2015 22:44:27 |
Thanks for the comparison and advice!
... I'm from Varaždin, Croatia.
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| Edina12. 07. 2015 00:24:35 |
We went with a friend to experience the "latest wonder" on Lisca. For young and experienced probably not overly demanding, for somewhat less young or those who don't love such paths, it could be quite adrenaline-pumping. You need quite some strength in arms, without fear of heights and some courage in the heart. I go on such a path with respect and responsibility and plan B. How was it this time at the link
http://stezeinsledi.blogspot.com/2015/07/kako-se-po-novem-spleza-na-lisco.html
and good luck to all also on such paths
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| klemen7317. 07. 2015 10:13:04 |
@trobec
And what on the RTV pictures is that which would put beginners in danger???
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| Žiga2217. 07. 2015 10:18:22 |
@klemen73
Non-use of the self-belay kit, instead use of regular nylon slings on the harness for "protection", non-use of the helmet under the wall.
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| joža x17. 07. 2015 11:21:56 |
This one I have to try soon, if I understood correctly the tour, with obligatory beer in the mt. hut, will take 2 hours? Cerje-ferata-summit-beer-easier path-Cerje I mean.
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| Smetar17. 07. 2015 11:57:15 |
@klemen73:
almost everything :-) from choice of gear (slings, maillons, lack of gloves), to progression technique.
Slings we use only for resting (photos, snack - if no queue behind us :-) ) and not for protection, especially in combination with maillons... (lack of braking system; maillons usually jam, requiring more arm strength from the user to "properly clip")...
Lack of gloves is more noticeable in beginners, as they usually complete the ferrata with lots of blisters and lose grip strength due to pain.
In movement technique we pay attention to the smallest steps possible (see pic 16). In beginners, they either run out of arm strength or get too tired from "unusual moves".
I have nothing against someone who (really) knows ferratas using slings for protection (as they know the dangers and have enough strength and technical knowledge to complete such a short ferrata multiple times if needed).
A different attitude (and gear) we must have if we show progression on ferratas to the wider public...
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| Blaž L,17. 07. 2015 12:50:07 |
I was up there this morning on this path. I'm a regular in the mountains, but a beginner and big enthusiast on ferratas, and I did the path without major efforts... If time allowed I'd go at least 1x more
The last part is technically more demanding, but super for training. The whole climbing path isn't as long as I expected (still longer than Pogačnik's on Grmada), but of course all gear is needed (helmet, SVK, ferrata gloves,...)
And safe steps to all
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