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Mountain ranges / Posavsko hribovje and Dolenjska / Kum / Zidani Most - Kum (through Škratova dolina (old path))

Zidani Most - Kum (through Škratova dolina (old path))

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Starting point: Zidani Most (201 m)
Latitude/Longitude: 46,0853°N 15,1709°E
Destination: Kum (1220 m)
Route name: through Škratova dolina (old path)
Walking time: 3 h
Difficulty: easy marked way
Elevation gain: 1019 m
Elevation difference along the route: 1019 m
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Author: andrejo
Views: 80.370
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Number of photos: 32
Number of comments: 87
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From Ljubljana, we drive towards Litija and continue to Zidani Most. If we come from Štajerska, from Celje through Laško we also drive to Zidani Most. We park at the railway station, or we can park by the macadam road 1 km before Zidani Most (from the direction of Litija), where the main road crosses the railway track.
Route description:
If we started the trail at the railway station in Zidani Most, we go approx. 1 km on the road in the direction of Hrastnik. Where the road crosses the railway track, there is a manual cableway "cicka", with the help of which we get to the other side of the Sava. The ride with the cicka is a special experience. When we are on the other bank of the Sava, we continue straight uphill along the stream. The path, which crosses the stream a few times, brings us to abandoned mills.
On the top of the ascent, the path flattens and Škratova dolina begins. The path through Škratova dolina partly runs along a cart track. At the end of the cart track we cross a meadow beside which there is an older farm. Soon we reach the asphalt road, where we continue right in the direction of Kum. On the left, the path from Radeče joins us. The road ascends and takes us past houses in the settlement. At the last house, we go under the shelter, where the path continues into the forest. After a few minutes of ascent, we come out of the forest and already see the summit. The path takes us past houses and later turns into the forest again. At the chapel in the forest by the path, we continue straight; from the right, the marked path from Mali Kum also joins. An ascent of about 15 minutes awaits us, and we are already at the top of Kum.
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Discussion about the trip Zidani Most - Kum (through Škratova dolina (old path))
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starakapa10. 01. 2014
Last week I was around there and I can tell you that the path is dry and without problems. It's also nicely marked.
jernej.spiler10. 01. 2014
ok, thanks for the info nasmeh
navdušena20. 11. 2014
Oj!
Has anyone gone from Zidani Most to Kum recently? How is "Cicka"? Is it still safe and functional?
What about the intermediate detour to Nebeška gora? Is it marked, do we know where to go?
Gorazd G20. 11. 2014
Cicko was replaced with a new one about a month ago. It works nicely. nasmeh

The path to Nebeška gora is marked from the east and west sides. If you come from Zidani Most, the path from the west side is more suitable. Visiting Nebeška gora extends the tour to Kum by a good hour.
navdušena20. 11. 2014
GorazdG, thanks for the info. I think Kum will "fall" already on Saturday!

navdušena22. 11. 2014
Today from Zidani Most first with "Cicko" across Sava - no problem, inside possible or a bit tight if with backpacks, two people sit. Really cool.
Then to the top of Nebeška gora. Around 2h 30 or so. Junction marked when you reach path crossroads. From Nebeška gora another approx. 1 hour 15 to Kum. All very well marked. Descended to Hrastnik. Slovenske železnice: 20 min delay. So what! It was nice and recommend.
Merymery1. 01. 2015
hello, did anyone go with cicko across Sava then along Škratova dolina to Kum a couple of days ago, can you drive across Sava and what's the path to Kum summit like
best regards mery
PohodniskoSrce4. 12. 2015
Hello! Today we headed to Kum via Škratova path. The path is very interesting! The "cicka" is modern, it's interesting to cross the Sava with it velik nasmeh! It's good to be at least two because if you go alone with "cicka" there are small chances you'll get to the other side without someone pushing you! All paths are well marked without any risk. With "cicka" max two people plus backpacks. The path is wonderful and not so innocent mežikanje! Best regards and safe steps! HikingHeart. On my profile there are some photos for information.
tvodop3. 05. 2016
A few days ago we failed to reach Kum via Škratova dolina. On the left bank of Sava (Zidani most) it said the ferry was out of service. It was moored on the other side of Sava. No announcement about this from PZ and PD Trbovlje.
jprim3. 05. 2016
You could drive to the other side by car. We did that some time ago too. Well, unless you wanted to go by ferry. I had a phobia, so that ride was cancelled thenvelik nasmeh.
Best regards!
garmont3. 05. 2016
The problem is if you arrive in Zidani Most by train...
hribuc854. 05. 2016
Alternative, somewhat less safe option is the following. From ŽP Zidani Most walk across the road bridge over Savinja towards Radeče and then along the main road 2 km in the direction of Radeče to the iron bridge over Sava from the Austro-Hungarian monarchy era. Here cross Sava and return on the "Kranjska" side to the gondola over Sava. The return is safer, it runs along a less busy road right above Sava. In short, this detour lengthens the path by approx. less than an hour or a good 3/4 hour if done more seriously. Warning once again. The direction to the bridge before Radeče is dangerous mainly due to trucks, so extra caution is not superfluous. But this railway bridge is the closest to ŽP Zidani Most. That's all from my side. Hope they repair the gondola soon.

Good luck!
luigi4. 05. 2016
The ferry is repaired, so off to Kum happily nasmeh
garmont31. 08. 2016
The storm on 29.8.2016 washed away the concrete platform with railing that you step on to climb onto Cicko.zadrega
Enka31. 08. 2016
Oh no!
Brave6619. 11. 2016
Is the footbridge in use?
docepe219. 11. 2016
The footbridge is normally in use, the platform is also in its place, and now they've piled up the slope anyway.
Brave6619. 11. 2016
Great, then tomorrow cheerfully to Kumnasmeh
Brave6619. 11. 2016
Is there a lot of snow up there?
tvodop19. 11. 2016
almost no snow. thaw already on Thursday
Brave6619. 11. 2016
darn, I was looking forward to it being white....
kahu23. 06. 2017
Hi! Does Cicka work? nasmeh LP!
garmont23. 06. 2017
It works. nasmeh
Janezs23. 06. 2017


A week ago we walked the Posavski krog. The path through Škratova dolina is very overgrown in the lower part, nettles, thistles, tall grasses.mrk pogledzmeden
Lord Pes13. 09. 2019
Hi!
I'm wondering, what's the path to Kum through "Škratovo dolina" like?

Best regards from Brežice nasmeh

cokla15. 01. 2020
Cicka is unusable again, as it was damaged in an accident at the level crossing with the railway.
jprim17. 01. 2020
Well, interesting, about two months ago we were still using it.
Quite an adrenaline rush, especially when you arrive on the other side and two dogs attack you.
On the return trip they also rushed at us properly.
Cheers!
karibu17. 01. 2020
I've been with Cicka several times already and never had any issues with dogs.
jprim17. 01. 2020
Or are there two Cickas? The house on the other side of the Sava has two dogs and when they hear Cicka rattling against the iron they start barking. A few meters from the landing along the path and you're already threatened by dogs' teeth.
Cheers!


karibu17. 01. 2020
What more can I tell you? Obviously they "smell" you velik nasmeh
Best regards and good luck!
jprim18. 01. 2020
Karibu
Anyway maybe the dogs were locked in the house.
Maybe they will chase you sometime too?velik nasmeheekmežikanje
jprim18. 01. 2020
Karibu sorry, the computer just records something on its own
I meant they sniffed you out in a homely way.
Regards!
jaz19. 01. 2020
On 2 January this year very friendly, happily wagging her tail and even went part of the path with me. Last year no problems with them either. Obviously they know who is not the right one and bark at such a person. Regards!
jprim19. 01. 2020
Maybe so, we are not the right ones ...
Next time I'll take sausage with me velik nasmehnasmehmežikanje
Regards!
azzey8. 05. 2020
Hi, is Cicka working already?
zmp28. 05. 2020
It works, at least last weekend it did.
navdušena11. 01. 2022 08:54:32
Is "cicka" okay now? Is it working?
Avje29. 01. 2022 02:53:35
Today I rode with cicko. It works.
Zanverbic29. 01. 2022 10:20:02
Just crossed the Sava river with cicko. It works nasmeh
davou11. 01. 2023 07:28:32
I do not recommend the trail. On Sunday 8.1.22 we set off along the mentioned trail. Already before crossing the green passage, a dog attacked us, which came from behind the fenced workshop. Under the summit, the trail passes several homes, under the shelter and literally over the thresholds of houses. In the settlement Kljucevica, another dog attacked us and it was pure luck that the owner somehow but successfully put the raging dog in the kennel. When we were returning, the dog was released again eek we went higher to the neighbors and asked them to call the owner to lock the dog in the kennel. I recommend some other trail mrk pogled
padez13. 01. 2023 10:15:06
Mountaineering Association Kum Trbovlje, the trail maintainer, what do you say to the previous comment???
docepe213. 01. 2023 11:35:43
If anyone had looked at the trail descriptions, they would see that the MA has already taken action and changed the course of the trail so that it turns right before the houses.

This description is even on this page under the label new trail. And on the map on this page, only the new marked trail is drawn.
padez13. 01. 2023 21:00:21
So @davou and the team did not walk the newly described (and hopefully marked) trail.
Let's leave that now. What about the "cicka" - is it really not operating, as stated in the note?
docepe214. 01. 2023 06:37:33
The problem is that on the old section there are still paths and markings are partially visible. Cicka is operating according to the latest information. Last year it was a target of vandals and they fixed it up quite a bit.
padez14. 01. 2023 10:14:11
It would be good to cancel that notice on mapzs from 24.06.2021 that the cable car is not operating until further notice and consequently access from Zidani Most is not possible...
robibre15. 01. 2023 17:07:36
The path is newly nicely marked and the cable car is operating normally.
davou18. 01. 2023 06:55:11
Then delete that "option" and the markings on the old path. Also the option for excursion from Zidani Most appears first!
marepn9551. 03. 2023 10:25:58
Is there perhaps a mobile number where I can check if Cicka is operating? Or does anyone have information if it's currently running? Thanks and best regards
mlostr2. 05. 2023 10:28:19
And what is the chance of getting across if you go alone?
mado2. 05. 2023 15:37:13
Cicka is operating i.e. it was working properly 18.3.2023 when I was on it.
If you go alone it is harder because you have to pull yourself alone along the cable which is next to Cicka. We didn't try how hard that is.
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