Vahta - Planinski dom pri Gospodični (by road)
Starting point: Vahta (615 m)
| Latitude/Longitude: | 45,7245°N 15,234°E |
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Route name: by road
Walking time: 2 h
Difficulty: easy marked way
Elevation gain: 207 m
Elevation difference along the route: 300 m
Map: Dolenjska 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer):
Recommended equipment (winter):
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Access to starting point:
From Novo Mesto we drive towards Metlika or vice versa. At the Vahta pass there is a larger parking lot, where we park.
Route description:
From the parking lot, we head onto a macadam road in the direction of the mountain hut on Gorjancih. The road for the first hour of walking runs almost horizontally and only rarely does a view open up a little, as we walk through the forest for the larger part of the path. In the second part of the path, the road brings us to a junction from where we have two options for continuing. The left footpath is 10 minutes shorter than the path along the road. If we continue on the road, we ascend for some time along the stream, which a little higher up is the border line between Slovenia and Croatia. The road then turns left and after some sharp turns the footpath rejoins us from the left. We then follow the road for a few minutes to the spot where a road to the mountain hut branches off to the left downwards. Only a good minute of walking to the mountain hut follows.
The trip can be extended to the following destinations: Trdinov vrh
Photos:
Discussion about the trip Vahta - Planinski dom pri Gospodični (by road)
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| VanSims22. 11. 2009 |
If you're not a regular guest at the hut at Gospodična or if you're alone (contributing little to their profit), don't expect to be treated equally to other guests.
When I returned from Trdinov vrh, I sat at a table. It was crowded, but the waiter thought it more worthwhile to serve two groups of guests he obviously knew (he was chatting with them), who arrived five or ten minutes AFTER ME. As soon as they came, he was with them, they ordered, he cleared the tables from previous guests, they immediately got drinks and food shortly after.
Only when a group sat next to me and he came to them did he casually turn to me and I ordered. There was no question of him clearing my table right away or me getting a drink. In fact, nothing happened for the next approx. 20-30 min until I left in despair.
The table next to me already got food (much later than those regulars), but not me. The group on my other side also waited a long time for him.
And when one of the two groups of regulars (who arrived after me) was already paying, he hadn't even cleared the smelly remnants of previous guests from my table, nor had I gotten a drink let alone food. Then I just left.
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| blazmrhar30. 11. 2009 |
Hello Mr. VanSims!
In the mountain hut at Gospodična on Gorjanci, we treat all guests equally, both groups and individual guests. We can confirm this by the fact that the waiter remembers you. You ordered an à la carte dish from the waiter, which takes about 25 minutes. After about 25 minutes, the waiter brought your ordered dish, but unfortunately you were no longer at the table. Probably what bothered you was that guests at the neighboring table were served before you, but they ordered ready-made dishes (goulash in bread bowl, jota, ričet, Gorjanci beans, mushroom soup, Trieste-style dumplings), which require less time to prepare in the kitchen.
The waiter did not serve you drinks because you did not want them.
The hut offers a very diverse selection of quality dishes, which is reflected in the crowd you experienced yourself on Sunday, 22.11.2009.
The mountain hut Pri Gospodični is one of the few huts in Slovenia with the HACCP system implemented, which ensures health-appropriate dishes. Almost all food in the kitchen needs thermal processing, and thermal processing takes its time, which depends on several factors.
The remark that other guests were served before you may be valid, but the waiter cannot monitor more than 100 guests at once and know who sat down first. As you know, guests waited for a free table in front of the hut, so the tables were not immediately cleared, and I believe the remnants of previous guests did not smell to you.
The serving staff in the hut is very friendly and accommodating, but in the crowd, every guest must understand that it takes a bit longer to be served. The staff are just people who try their best to quickly and quality satisfy the wishes of ALL guests. There are not many people willing to work several days in a row from morning to evening, every Sunday and holiday.
Therefore, I also expect more respect for the innkeepers and patience, not only in our hut, but also in other huts in Slovenia. With pleasure, I offer you a job in service on Sunday, of course for good pay, and perhaps then you will understand why you did not feel equal to other guests.
I invite you to visit our beautiful Gorjanci and the Mountain Hut pri Gospodični again and perhaps avoid lunchtime (between 13:00 and 15:00). I believe you will change your opinion upon leaving and perhaps write a new comment.
Manager of the Mountain Hut pri Gospodični
Blaž Mrhar
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| rjudnic1. 12. 2009 |
Here I agree with the manager.
Last time I was at Gospodični on a Saturday and ordered mushroom soup (it was on the menu) and tea. Despite the big crowd, I was served in five minutes, and the waitress even advised my girlfriend and me to take just one shot of schnapps, that it would be enough because the portions are large. And indeed it was more than enough and very good on top.
And I was last at Gospodični back in high school, so I'm not a regular customer and the staff don't know me.
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| Simon273. 12. 2009 |
Hi
I am several times a year at Trdinov vrh and also in the mountain hut and I must say I ABSOLUTELY do not agree with Vansims!
I personally know the manager and know how much effort he puts in to make visitors satisfied and I think, before someone writes something like that, they should think a bit or put themselves in their shoes.... Hats off to them!
Blaž, keep up the good work....
LP
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| aleš436. 12. 2009 |
What are you guys wanking about on these pages regarding the caretaker and staff in the hut. And that on three subpages of the same trail!
Talk and discuss about footwear, conditions, opinions on the trails. 
Not all huts are to my liking either. So what? I don't mean to bombard you who like hiking in the mountains with long posts.
I've been to Trdin several times a year and I have no complaints about the trail and the hut; only now there's a lot of mud and I don't like that, because every other step sinks in! But I'll put those small crampons on...
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| m8. 12. 2009 |
Hello!
I myself was there almost 3 years ago at Gospodični and on Trdinov vrh. It's part of the transverse trail. And it's also good to explore a bit of our Slovenia (for general education).
I'll start from the end; to Mr. Ales43: the path was nice, forested, fairly frequent markers (only in Gabrje I got a bit confused where to park, because it wasn't well marked), the feelings on the path were also nice, around the spring at Gospodični pure romance (you drink water to rejuvenate and recall Trdin's Tales and stories about Gorjanci)...
Well, and then it would be good to eat something (since there's an ascent and about 200 km drive ahead). And just in case, before ascending to Trdinov vrh, stop at the mountain hut... Since you've never liked meat since childhood, ask if they have anything meatless. And lo and behold; they have nothing warm cooked yet, they offer you cottage cheese struklji (maybe they call them raw?!), which will be ready in half an hour. And since you have time; you go first to Trdinov vrh, see 'our' and Croatian church. And enjoy the summit. And slowly descend for lunch. The struklji are boiled, for us in the west, a bit too much and if I think of that one seasoned with breadcrumbs at the source of Soča, it makes me queasy. Service is quick, adequate, but still... same thing at Mirna gora... nothing meatless; I arrange for some pasta and get macaroni seasoned with oil. No parmesan. Also mixed impression here (ascent excellent, culinary offer poor).
Well; I know I'm too long with writing. But still; let me emphasize; I'm not demanding about food. Water is important.
But! The mountain huts at Gospodični and Mirna gora are accessible by car and besides meat (and a little pasta) the caretakers can bring something else. Maybe some instant polenta, to get some polenta with milk. And don't talk now about extra needs of some and such, let the spoiled stay home... but at Kredarica, Planika, Dolici and Sedmeri at any time (lunch time, bedtime), always unannounced (without reservation) I got polenta, pancakes, warm flan,... And those are huts accessible by helicopter (or sometimes by mules) and also lots of guests or hikers come. If you already have so many bottles with various liqueurs (read schnapps) displayed on shelves, be at least half as 'creative' with food variety. There is also a book Nutrition in the Mountains.
Flexibility, please, no hard feelings and stay healthy! (Minister Gregor nothing.)
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| reina3. 01. 2010 |
I completely agree with Aleš43. I don't know what else the "excellent" hikers want to be served front and back.....pancakes, maybe even flambéed at three in the morning?
I also understand Blaž Mrhar, I'm a former waitress and I know what it looks like when you "swim" among "little Slovenians"!
The fact that everyone has a bad day sometimes can be quickly fixed with a smile. I've already encountered a bit less good mood on the other side of the counter, I laughed first, whined a little, and the mood on both sides was better.
I'll add a comment about sitting in huts and snacking on brought food.
I often bring something small with me, because I don't always want to fill my backpack to the brim, the way back to the valley is harder. I understand the possible bad mood of the hut keepers who earn their bread with their offer, when looking at a "guest" who occupies a table for free. For God's sake people, at least order a tea with your Carniolan sausage or a bottle of beer with three glasses. You all complain about the prices, have you walked through shopping centers in the last days????? Carts can barely hold the weight of purchases, in the mountains we complain that we can't sit in the warm for free and that the struklji are overcooked....etc.
We are really awful!
We go to the mountains for something else, I'd say, so I wish everyone safe steps in 2010 and as little bad mood as possible, and more smiles on faces.
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| zdomec3. 01. 2010 |
Hello
I have often noticed various comments about food in our mountain huts and lodges. Here I want to analyze some inconsistencies that happen in our huts regarding food. I have been living in Germany for decades, and I am a member of the German alpine organization, and also a member of our alpine association (PD Litija). During vacations and visits to the homeland, I often go to our mountains and visit our alpine huts, and I myself have found that the food does not meet today's standards.
Our German alpine association owns an alpine hut at 2,200 m altitude. Supply is by helicopter. The keeper is obliged to offer food comparable to a medium-good restaurant offer in the valley. Whoever has been in the mountains of Austria or Germany probably knows that in huts at lunchtime you always get a lunch that includes a main dish with side dish and even a fresh salad. Beer is transported in 50-liter kegs and served on tap.
Prices are roughly set and must not exceed valley food prices.
As a member of the economic section of our association, I can give you a rough calculation. The costs of our hut must be covered solely by the sale of food and drinks, and a certain profit must also be generated for the keeper. So the hut must function ECONOMICALLY! This can only be realized if a quality product (read food and drinks) is offered.
But how is it in our huts and lodges?
Let's take the Kamnik or Savinja Alps as an example. Every hut in the Kamnik Alps has a cargo cableway (except Kočbek's hut on Korošica). Do you realize what that means? The cargo cableway enables SUPER excellent supply, only good will and organization are needed. But if you visit these huts during the week in the main season, they mostly offer Ričet or barley soup, very rarely something better. That's why it's no wonder that alpine associations look for new keepers every season. It's logical that the keeper can't earn much if they don't offer anything sensible for the stomach. I knew a lady who was the keeper at Kamniško sedlo for 17 years (seasons), today you won't experience that anymore.
I know, now some will jump up and start: we don't go to the mountains for food and such. True, we don't go to the mountains for food, but in today's time economic logic prevails even in the mountains, and every hut must organize itself so that it pays off for every keeper to operate. Then we won't read signs like "Consumption of self-brought food is not desired in the hut" and similar.
I wish you all many beautiful days and safe steps in our beautiful mountains
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| VanSims19. 01. 2010 |
Replying to caretaker Blaž Mrhar:
First, you probably weren't there so you don't know what happened. The version you know is from the waiter who, of course, told a different story to defend himself to his employer. Anyone would probably do that!
There was a crowd, as I already mentioned, but not soooo big that guests would wait for a table and even if there were maybe 50-60, not more than 100 people.
What I ordered, after a few months, I don't remember. I ordered something I saw on the board outside and didn't think much about it, which is not my habit. Whether I ordered drinks, I don't remember either. Anyway, that's not important, because the facts remain:
1. The waiter came to me last and took orders from almost everyone around who came after me.
2. He cleared tables from all others already at ordering, but from me, in the next half hour while I persisted there, no. Of course it's not about being polite (though it does spoil the appetite a bit) but from that I concluded that since he didn't even do that, I wouldn't get anything anytime soon.
3. In 25 minutes there was no food there!
Those behind me also talked about the quality of food in our huts. Let me say that from my experience it's not much lower than in foreign huts, if at all (my experience mainly from Italy and France). Anyway, I'm not that sensitive to it.
But the difference in attitude towards visitors. And that's what bothered me about you, Mr. caretaker.
The example is not isolated. Even in the valley I often go to some tavern and the serving staff care much more about local drunks who are almost fixtures there than about casual visitors.
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| VanSims19. 01. 2010 |
To connect to zdomčev's comment:
I don't know how it is in Germany, but in France and Italy (especially Dolomites) the prices seemed quite a bit more expensive than in the valley.
Of course I don't buy the talk from our caretakers that it's because of transport costs for drinks and food to the mountains. That increases the price maybe 20-30 percent where there is a road or cable car to the hut.
Better to say openly that it's because the hut is the only place where you can eat and accordingly expensive according to market laws: low competition causes higher prices. THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT, as zdomec already said, in the mountains market logic also rules. Just don't lie to people!
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| hribolazec123. 01. 2010 |
Hello
by no means is it my intention to defend the hut keeper at Gorjanci but still I would ask Mr. Van Sims how he no longer remembers what he ordered, whether he ordered drinks etc....
But he remembers that the waiter came to him last, that there was no food in 25 minutes....
You know Mr. Van Sims serving 50-60 people is already quite crowded in a mountain hut
Mr. Van Sims next time have BILOBIL in your backpack
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| VanSims13. 02. 2010 |
Dear hribolazec1!
If you look at the dates of the first post (complaint) and the second (reply to the keeper) you see there are two months between them. Would you remember what you ordered two months ago if you hadn't consumed it?
Obviously from the context and the keeper's reply it was food so I recommend GLASSES!
As for serving 50-60 people. Where does it say they shouldn't hire additional (or even additional) waiter(s). In a normal tavern there would be at least three. But no! Then the profit of the Dom na Godpodični would be smaller right away. Why on earth would they make unnecessary expenses when they don't have to fear guests going elsewhere since they are the only ones where you can eat or rather monopolists!
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| aleš4316. 02. 2010 |
vanSims, don't clutter the forum with silly comments!
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| JusAvgustin16. 02. 2010 |
what are you guys up to here... let's open a topic for complaint and praise books.
please! gostilne.net
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| VanSims9. 04. 2010 |
aleš43, if anyone's comment is off-topic, it's yours because it has nothing to do with the topic we're discussing!
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| VanSims17. 04. 2010 |
pardon, the penultimate paragraph...
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| Iguana18. 04. 2010 |
Oh people of God, now I'm a bit angry, for almost half a year you've been arguing up here about inns, caretakers, service! Several people have already pointed out to this "gentleman" VanSims that mountains are not a place for dissatisfaction with hospitality offers, and he still doesn't stop.
Shame on you "SIR" VanSims! Stay at home, stew anger, rage within the four walls of your home and leave this portal for the things it's intended for.
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| VanSims19. 04. 2010 |
I agree that the topic could be moved to the forum for general debates:
http://www.hribi.net/trenutnerazmere.asp?slo=1&gorovjeid=10001
Moderator, could that be done? So everything under this topic Excursion Discussions would be moved to the GENERAL CONVERSATIONS forum, where debates take place that are not directly related to excursions. Maybe even create a subforum Huts - praises and complaints.
Thanks, then please delete this message.
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| dore20. 04. 2010 |
Arguing over a donkey's shadow.
I think that in mountain huts they should serve only tea again, maybe one-pot meal, if you want to "be served", go to the valley inn.
VanSim, you're splitting hairs, rather take a backpack, put some sandwiches inside, a thermos of tea, a liter of water, and hit the trail, not drive by car to the mountain hut, then demand service like at Brdo pri Kranju.
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| VanSims20. 04. 2010 |
Hi there!
I agree with the first paragraph. If the huts returned to 'tea and one-pot meal' only honest hikers would remain, local drunks who are the inventory there and Sunday so-called 'hikers' who drive up every Sunday by car for lunch and whom the caretaker and waiter know and neglect other guests because of them would be eliminated.
I didn't come up by car, I left it in Gabrje walked to Gospodična, then on to Trdinov vrh and only on the way back stopped at Dom na Gospodični. I am a real hiker unlike Sunday inn visitors and local drunks who unfortunately have priority over honest hikers in many huts. I'm also not demanding about food.
'Respected Lady' Iquana: That's exactly why I complained, because a place like Planinski dom is NOT an inn or shouldn't be. The way they behave towards honest hikers in Dom na Gospodični is really only how they behave in inns. And in worse inns, where in remote countryside it's already a sensation if they see a tourist.
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| VanSims20. 04. 2010 |
I see that my opponents (mainly probably know someone at Gospodični) have managed to obscure the meaning of my complaint so let me repeat once more:
I COMPLAINED BECAUSE OF DISCRIMINATORY TREATMENT OF A CASUAL GUEST COMPARED TO REGULAR GUESTS!
Without service and food I can't even complain since I didn't get it!
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| rjudnic20. 04. 2010 |
@VanSims
If you were discriminated against because you're a real hiker, I suggest you complain to Zdenka Čebašek Tratnik. She is the human rights advocate, she'll surely know how to help with your problem
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| VanSims5. 08. 2010 |
Of course I deeply apologize for daring to criticize your beloved caretaker who nicely feeds and waters you every Sunday when you drive up there by cars. And of course ensures that it happens very quickly...
Otherwise I wouldn't complain at all if the mentioned station was named 'Oštarija na Gospodični' instead of 'Planinski dom na Gospodični'.
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| LukaSLO24. 10. 2010 |
Hey VamSims, don't talk nonsense. The food at Gospodična is excellent, as is the service. Verified. Both for regulars and for first-timers.
So, no stupidities.
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| VanSims26. 10. 2010 |
I didn't say anything about the food and service, because I can't either since I couldn't even try the food and wasn't given the chance to see how they serve it.
And I could also, if I were as rude as you, say don't talk nonsense and don't spew stupidities but read what it's actually about.
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| turbo26. 10. 2010 |
I'd gladly go to Gospodična, . . . , but my wife doesn't allow it
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| LukaSLO26. 10. 2010 |
@VanSims: I read your posts carefully. I commented because I know the conditions, as I often go for a walk to Gorjanci. Especially on weekends it's full of people up there, some even come by bus and everyone is quickly served. The waiter doesn't distinguish between people ...
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| VanSims27. 10. 2010 |
LukaSLO:
Quote: 'I know the conditions, as I often go for a walk to Gorjanci'
Is that called in other words 'regular guest'???
Quote: 'they also come by bus and everyone is served quickly'
As far as I know, there is no regular line up there, so they probably come with special buses. Surely not just one person comes with one bus???
Are you really sure you read my posts properly?
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| nanica28. 10. 2010 |
Jesus Christ, will this ever stop??
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| klm28. 10. 2010 |
Where is Jesus Christ? - the conversation is mostly just between VanSims and LukaSLO.
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| turbo28. 10. 2010 |
lol, that's not true! 
There are four: VanSims, LukaSLO, Jesus Christ and the Lady 
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| JusAvgustin28. 10. 2010 |
to the one your lady doesn't allow you... hehe, you're really fun
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| sherpa28. 10. 2010 |
This above discussion is yet another proof that it would be best to simply close the (high)mountain inns and have peace from the valley complaints (like untimely service) that some of you experience in the mountains.
VanSim, stop whining already and rather enjoy the beauties of the mountain world; if you notice them at all amidst all the problems you have with the hospitality offer in the hills.
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| hribovska28. 10. 2010 |
It's sad that you're arguing here who was served how, if you don't like it you have backpacks and load yourself with food as you like,
this page should be intended for better and safer hiking in the mountains, and also enjoying nature, for those who know how to observe it
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| turbo29. 10. 2010 |
Hribovska,
from your mouth to God's ears 
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| jprim29. 10. 2010 |
I understand both comments, will have to check out Gospodična sometime, but the fact is that a mountain hut must follow different rules and laws than a regular inn.
Best!
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| kum 508. 01. 2013 |
I was up there in September by bike, there were no problems with the staff, especially not with food or drinks, and I don't know anyone, because Litija is far
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| jprim8. 01. 2013 |
...you were a cyclist, not a hiker.
What I wrote holds true and don't convince me anymore that my experience is not real.
Regards!
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