V Koncu - Kogel (via Gamsov skret)
Starting point: V Koncu (900 m)
| Latitude/Longitude: | 46,342°N 14,5682°E |
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Route name: via Gamsov skret
Walking time: 3 h 15 min
Difficulty: very difficult unmarked way, easy pathless terrain
Elevation gain: 1200 m
Elevation difference along the route: 1220 m
Map: Kamniške in Savinjske Alpe 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer): helmet
Recommended equipment (winter): helmet, ice axe, crampons
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Access to starting point:
We drive to Kamnik and follow the road towards the valley of Kamniška Bistrica. From the hut in Kamniška Bistrica we continue driving on the forest road, which brings us higher to a junction, where we continue straight (right Jermanca, starting point for Kamniško sedlo). The road then takes us past Žagana peč to the parking lot at the lower station of the cargo cableway to Kokrsko sedlo.
Driving from the Koča in Kamniška Bistrica to the parking lot V Koncu is now forbidden (traffic sign), this extends the path by less than an hour.
Route description:
From the parking lot at the bottom station of the cableway, we continue on the road to the »upper parking lot«. Here we will notice two cart tracks by the parking lot on the left side of the road. The left cart track, which is marked with signs on a tree, leads towards Kokrsko sedlo. We go on the right cart track (this cart track is also on the left side of the road).
At first for some time we walk on the mentioned cart track from which some side cart tracks also branch off, after that the cart track passes into a footpath. Further, we ascend for quite some time on a narrow footpath through the forest. The path here all the time runs on the left side of the valley and so avoids the steep rocky jump in the bottom part of the valley.
When we come out of the forest, the path crosses slightly steeper slopes to the right and brings us to grassy slopes. Next follows an ascent on grassy terrain, which brings us below the walls of Kogel.
Here the better beaten footpath turns left towards the wall, and we continue slightly right on a narrow footpath. The path on this part is quite poorly visible and runs on the left side of the torrent up the valley. For orientation, the clearly visible waterfall of the mentioned torrent (usually without water) can serve. The footpath already a little before the waterfall turns to the left and enters the wall.
Here the path becomes very demanding and first we have to climb a few meters up the almost vertical slope. Next follows an ascent on a narrow secured ledge, which crosses the slope to the right and brings us to steep grassy slopes. Even though the ledge is secured, the ascent is quite demanding. We also have to take into account that the fixed safety gear is usually in somewhat worse condition than we are used to on marked paths. Further, we ascend for some time on quite steep grassy slopes, after that the slope becomes gradually less steep and the path brings us to an unexpected bench from which there is also a very nice view in all directions.
Further, we ascend on the grassy slope upwards all the way to the marked path Kokrsko sedlo - Kamniško sedlo.
Here we go left and follow the marked path, which brings us to the northern side of Kogel. Here we leave the marked path and first descend a little on pathless terrain. Because the northern slope of Kogel isn't too steep, looking for appropriate passages towards the summit isn't too demanding. We have to pay attention to abysses, of which there are quite a few on the slope of Kogel.
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Discussion about the trip V Koncu - Kogel (via Gamsov skret)
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| alpin5. 07. 2010 |
Just as ordered. I planned to do this tour last, when I went to the bivouac under Grintovec. Due to the unknown terrain, I preferred to go past Kokrsko sedlo and onwards. In the future, however, I plan to visit Kogel and will tackle it via this route. Best regards.
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| capin12. 10. 2010 |
On Saturday finally time for the long-planned route via Gamsov skret. I started still in the dark from the last parking lot and turned left onto the forest road. After about 15 min. I realized it's just a shortcut to the marked path to Kokrško (Kekec would say: stupid you are dumb). Quickly back down, then up the next forest road, that one was the right one. After the ascent through the forest, real views open up. Of course, I was most interested in Kogel and its ledge, which looks nice from afar. When I reach its wall, I go about 50m left uphill (right through the gully is much easier and secured), to the ledge that goes up to the right. It looks fairly easy at first, then it stands impudently vertical. Holds are small, grass tufts not very secure. Exposure is quite big for a few awkward meters. On the ridge I switch to another ledge that takes me almost flat to steep grass. About 30m below I see the secured path. Follows a tough direct ascent up until I reach a wonderful mountain invention that stands in the right place, so I devote some time to it. From there again ascent to the marked path via Sleme, there I turn left towards Kokrško sedlo. I detour to Kogel which is not far from the path, though I always went past it. Then past the bivouac to the saddle and down to the valley. Normally, to the forumers' meeting which dragged on late into the night (well, it was already dark). After a good tour, good company. Best regards.
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| jprim13. 10. 2010 |
Last year my husband and I missed this path, then we continued via Žmavčerje, a path we already knew.
As far as I understand you missed it again later:
About 30 m below me I see the protected path ...
Could I have some advice please, what to pay attention to so that a hiker doesn't have something similar happen.
LP and thanks.
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| capin13. 10. 2010 |
The second time I didn't miss it, as I wanted to go along that Koglova polica. Under Koglova stena you have two variants: go left under the wall and up the ledge rightwards or continue further in the gully to the secured part of the path. I knew both, but I prefer some demanding pathless terrain or scrambling over cables. Time-wise I think there's no difference anyway. If you go the harder variant you see the cables below you from the ledge. Both paths join again on the grassy slope. Orientation isn't difficult as the path is well trodden to the bench (great invention) and beyond. A couple of pictures. L.p.
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| jprim13. 10. 2010 |
Probably the biggest problem is if you miss it down below, then we crawled and climbed over fallen trees, which was probably from the avalanche, ...
Thanks!
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| garmont17. 10. 2012 |
The sign in picture No. 2 (Kokrsko sedlo) is no longer there.
The entry to the part secured with a cable is a few meters further to the left, as the cable there is tensioned almost to the very entry into the wall.
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| visokogorc27. 06. 2013 |
or can something spin in your head - sometimes it does for me, just asking::
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| andi218. 08. 2014 |
nice description with key moments, clearly visible and well-maintained path, so no orientation issues, fitness and sure step more important. Views and solitude excellent, may it remain so...
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| enageorgette1. 07. 2021 16:19:12 |
Yesterday I was on Kogel. From Koča v Kamniški Bistrici to the parking lot V Koncu, it's possible to drive by car.
At the upper parking lot, there's no longer a sign for Kokrsko sedlo, and the cart track is quite overgrown and after a few meters buried with branches (possible to bypass them).
To the bench, the path is well trodden (worse along the torrent). From the bench onwards, the path on the grassy slope is hard to follow, I barely found the marked path Kokrsko sedlo - Kamniško sedlo - only behind, after the highest green hillock. This path was also hard to follow because there were still some snow patches in that section. I crossed the patches "by feel" (of course I don't recommend it) and reached the northern side of Kogel, from there it's just a couple of minutes to the summit.
The view from the top is still absolutely worth the arduous path finding!
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