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Mountain ranges / Karawanks / Koschutnikturm (Košutnikov turn) / Koča pod Košuto - Koschutnikturm (Košutnikov turn) (via Cjajnik / Lärchenturm)

Koča pod Košuto - Koschutnikturm (Košutnikov turn) (via Cjajnik / Lärchenturm)

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Starting point: Koča pod Košuto (1280 m)
Latitude/Longitude: 46,4517°N 14,3875°E
Route name: via Cjajnik / Lärchenturm
Walking time: 4 h 30 min
Difficulty: extremely difficult marked way
Via ferrata: D
Elevation gain: 853 m
Elevation difference along the route: 1050 m
Map: Karavanke - osrednji del 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer): helmet, self belay set
Recommended equipment (winter): helmet, self belay set, ice axe, crampons
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Number of photos: 82
Number of comments: 68
Access to starting point:
Over the border crossing Ljubelj we drive to Borovlje / Ferlach, where we turn right in the direction of the village Sele / Zell-Pharre. A little before the sign which marks the settlement Sele / Zell-Pharre, a road branches off to the right towards the mountain hut Koča pod Košuto / Koschutahaus. We follow this road all the way to the mountain hut, where we park on a large parking lot.
Route description:
From the parking lot, we head southeast following the signs Lärchenturm / Cjajnik, Koschutnikturm / Košutnikov turn. At the beginning of the path, we will also notice a large board with a picture of Košuta and accurately drawn paths to Cjajnik and Košutnikov turn. The path then runs through the forest towards the east for some time and brings us to a junction where we turn right following the signs Cjajnik. We soon come out of the forest to a scree field which we then cross in ascent towards the west (in the direction towards Cjajnik). When crossing the scree, we follow the red-white blazes; the large yellow blazes on the rocks should not confuse us, as they lead upwards on the scree towards the gully which leads towards Cjajnikova škrbina.
At the entrance to the climbing section of the path, we must equip ourselves with a helmet and a self-belay set; the use of climbing gloves is also highly recommended. The path already at the beginning ascends steeply and then crosses a steep wall to the right. The path is secured throughout with a steel cable, and occasionally some pegs assist us, but far fewer than one might expect. There are not many footholds, and much of the work during the ascent must be done with the hands. The path then proceeds slightly to the right for quite some time and ascends almost vertically several times. Later, the path turns left and ascends a somewhat easier, slightly vegetated slope. For a short time, the summit of Cjajnik also appears to us, then we re-enter the wall. We ascend very steeply again, and the exposure becomes greater. The steepness rarely eases further on, then the path turns slightly right and brings us to a junction below the summit tower. We have two paths to choose from that lead to the summit; regardless of which one we choose, very demanding climbing awaits us. The left path is marked with difficulty level D, the right with difficulty level C.
Austrians rate the difficulty of climbing paths with grades from A to E, where A is the easiest and E the most difficult.
The right, easier path first bypasses the summit on the right side, then ascends to the summit from the west side. The left path ascends vertically from the junction towards the summit. The climbing here is really very demanding as there are not many holds in the rock. Only a few pegs and the vertical steel cable assist us.
From the summit, we then descend a somewhat easier but still extremely demanding path of difficulty level C. First, we must step over the narrow notch from the northern tower with the aid of the steel cable, then we begin descending the almost vertical wall. Soon we reach a junction of paths in the western wall of Cjajnik. We head left towards Cjajnikova škrbina (Lärchenscharte); right leads the path towards Koča pod Košuto. From the junction, we then cross slightly towards the south; the steepness does not ease until Cjajnikova škrbina. When we step onto firm ground in the notch, we can breathe a little easier as the worst is behind us. In the notch, we will also notice old blazes which from the notch lead down the eastern gully into the valley. This path is not suitable for descent as it is closed due to great crumbliness.
From the notch, we continue along the trail which first leads southwest, then begins to ascend steeply on steep grass towards Užnik. A slightly crumbly ascent in a narrow gully follows, and we soon reach the main ridge of Košuta.
On the ridge, we turn left and continue along the south side of the ridge. The path initially runs along relatively steep grassy slopes; later, when we return to the ridge, the path becomes somewhat exposed, and some steel cables assist us. From the left side, the climbing path to Košutnikov turn from the Austrian side (ÖTK Steig Neu) then joins us; a few meters later, the western path from Planina spodnja Dolga njiva joins from the right side. We continue along the south side of the ridge and, on the path which becomes somewhat steeper, soon reach the panoramic summit.
The described path is extremely demanding, especially the ascent to Cjajnik and the descent to Cjajnikova škrbina. This section of the path is suitable only for the most experienced mountaineers with sufficient arm strength and mandatory self-belaying. The path to Cjajnik is among the most difficult in the Karawanks and harder than most Italian extremely demanding paths in the Julian Alps.
We can descend along the climbing path to Košutnikov turn (ÖTK Steig Neu).
route map - Koschutnikturm (Košutnikov turn)
Along the route: Cjajnik / Lärchenturm (1965m), Užnik (2079m)
We recommend: trips from the same starting point, similar trips, panorama, summit register
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Discussion about the trip Koča pod Košuto - Koschutnikturm (Košutnikov turn) (via Cjajnik / Lärchenturm)
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Marin1. 08. 2011
Yesterday we climbed to Cjajnik. The tower without using pegs is very demanding, as is the descent from the top. The path to Košutnikov turn is much easier, nice view on Slo. and Aus. side. Descent via ÖTK Steig Neu becomes more interesting, crossing the bridge pumps some adrenaline through the veins. Excellent combination (ferrata and hiking). Recommend to all fans of C/D difficulty ferratas.

Best
elektro25. 09. 2011
We tackled this ferrata last week. First ferrata of such difficulty for me; plenty of adrenaline and it also provides good training for the whole body.
There was apparently quite some controversy around this ferrata and in the end I myself wondered where the sense of this path is. Otherwise it doesn't bother me and probably there are people who suit such paths; but to me it seems somehow forced and without feeling. Using all limbs is desirable and that's why I also visit ferratas, but literally dragging myself along the cables for a good part of the path because there are no natural holds is just nonsense to me.
urbancek25. 09. 2011
Yes, that's the Austrians who crave only difficulty... That's why they're so fast on "easier" ferratas, because they train non-stop in these naturally vertical gymsvelik nasmeh
elektro27. 09. 2011
Speed doesn't matter to me, everyone walks at their own pace.
I just don't know what you can get used to on such a via ferrata except remembering to bring gloves to prevent blisters...
probably such via ferratas are training grounds for those we meet in our mountains who just pull on the cables and practically ignore natural holds.
The real training ground is the path over Plemenice - few cables and some more pegs; metal is used where it's really needed, otherwise not, and you have to use the natural features of the via ferrata.
urbancek27. 09. 2011
@elektro: Austrians "train" on super demanding via ferratas, to which Cjajnik, let alone Plemenice (I don't know what's so demanding therezavijanje z očmi) don't come up to their knees...

Best regards!
elektro28. 09. 2011
I believe it's fine for them. But can we even easily call this climbing? Pulling on cables and stepping on brackets (like walking on a greased ladder) is not climbing for me.

Plemenice are not difficult, but a real training ground where you get used to using natural holds and walking on airy ferratas. If I compare Plemenice and this over Cjajnik, it was much more varied on Plemenice, because you're much more dependent on yourself and really can't afford mistakes. Over Cjajnik you're always tied to the cable anyway, and even if you slip it's not such a problem - you slide down a bit (literally hehe) but at least you have a second chance.
I feel safer in a real rally car at 250km/h (with roll cage and five-point harness) than say in some Clio at 150km/h...admittedly bad comparison but I hope you see what I'm aiming at.
urbancek28. 09. 2011
But if I compare Plemenice and Cjajnik, Plemenice were much longer, Cjajnik not... And Plemenice aren't a ferrata...mežikanje Second chance on Cjajnik, on the summit pillar? Have you even been up there?? If you fly those two meters there, you break your spine immediatelyeek
Regarding natural holds... e.g.: Mrzla gora, from Vevnica towards Strug and further etc., those are natural holds, not Plemenice, where after the initial secured part, you hardly use your hands until the next secured part...eekeekeek

I really don't know where you walked this and if at all...zavijanje z očmi
Kita20. 03. 2012
Cjajnik is a respectable and quite demanding via ferrata...
Poprck2. 05. 2012
Cjajnik is like every other via ferrata of this difficulty level "forced" and deliberately does not use natural passages, where the emphasis is on gymnastics along the cable rather than the natural beauty of the path itself. Plemenice are certainly a more naturally executed tour, which mostly uses existing natural passages, each of these two has its own charm and also pros and cons. But just as a romantic will not overly admire and enjoy via ferratas where the emphasis is on exercise, the adrenaline junkie will also get bored on naturally routed paths, there are two different types.
I haven't seen any tests anywhere on how quickdraws perform in a harder fall in such a via ferrata, because the fact is that in this case they break transversely on the bolt and in Govžnarjevi peči they already solved this with rubber attachments, while I haven't seen these in Austrian via ferratas yet.
I also wonder why in these more difficult via ferratas they still stick to classic cable and pegs, it would seem much more interesting to me if at certain passages one had to use aids for classic technical climbing, and the cable would perhaps only serve as protection, but then it probably wouldn't be accessible to a wider audience anymore.
LGP
acjom4. 07. 2012
Is the mentioned trail more demanding than Božičev vrh in Železna kapla? Thanksnasmeh
funnyboy4. 07. 2012
Nonasmeh
pohodni4. 07. 2012
From a technical point of view, the climbing path via Cjajnik is indeed slightly easier than the one in Železna kapla, but before setting out on this path, we must consider a few more facts.
In Železna kapla, we only ascend the climbing section, practically everyone returns downhill via the easy circular path. On Cjajnik, there is no such option. Either return via the same climbing path or continue towards Cjajnikova škrbina, where a very difficult descent also awaits us. Of course, the mentioned path is not yet finished, as a quite demanding descent from Košutnikov turn awaits us, either via the suspension bridge or bypassing it.
If I were to sum it all up somehow, I would say that at least in my opinion, the path via Cjajnik is considerably more demanding in terms of fitness, overall via Košutnikov turn also more strenuous and longer, and in technical terms, precisely because of the obligatory difficult descents, not much easier than the one in Železna kapla.
Best regards.
acjom4. 07. 2012
Thanks, when I return I'll share my impressions too.nasmeh
Tinch2. 08. 2012
Yesterday I was on the mentioned tour. On the path to Cjajnik there's still a warning that the path is closed, but in the hut they confirmed it was reopened on 31.7.
ljubitelj gora2. 08. 2012
Is the path okay after that?
pravi2. 08. 2012
The avalanche went 200m away from the path, so no problems with access, probably the warning is so that you hike at your own risk..
urbancek3. 08. 2012
This wasn't clear to me either. The rockfall and its impact zone in my opinion don't reach the path to Cjajnik at alleekzavijanje z očmi
ljubitelj gora25. 10. 2012
Yesterday I took this path, the landslide that happened in summer was quite a bit to the left of the entrance to the ferrata at Cjajnik, path open, but there are various warnings for via ferrata sets, returned via the suspension bridge which was swaying quite a bit, a bit scary, and I had no one with me to say some encouraging wordsvelik nasmeh
jure197725. 10. 2012
I did the trail with a group on Sunday. Fantastic weather, the path is excellently secured and definitely worth seeing. The bridge swayed quite a bit for me too velik nasmeh. The first three steps are the most "fun", then it goes smoothly onwards.
bohornik16. 11. 2012
I'm looking for information on the current conditions on the above-mentioned ascent. Thanks!
ljubitelj gora16. 11. 2012
question about the fixed protections due to ivy, because last time at the beginning I had a bit of smooth cable.
ms_primoz24. 07. 2013
Is anyone going to hike the mentioned path soon? How are the fixed protections? Good luck and safe steps
acjom24. 07. 2013
Path hiked fourteen days ago, no peculiarities. Just boldly to the top, good luck and safenasmeh
ms_primoz24. 07. 2013
thanks
MaxSi24. 09. 2013
The last summer day was perfect for mountaineering and since I fancied some adrenaline, I decided to repeat Cjajnik.
Despite some complaining that you drive too high by car, the Koča pod Košuto is at 1300m, it didn't bother me at all, as Cjajnik is really good "workout".
Surprisingly, despite the ideal day, there wasn't excessive traffic, only about 15 hikers I met.
To not ramble too much, here's some comments, as the path is truly impressive.
The warm-up part on scree to the base of the wall warms us up well and right after entry, you need to tense muscles considerably. Protections and cables are in excellent condition, only on some section a loose cable surprises, but it poses no danger, just pay more attention to step and grip. The middle part is in my opinion overly protected, but better more than less, especially for the unaccustomed. The final tower offers real adventure and no doubt we sweat honestly. On the tower, the thought haunted me how skillful and brave those are who tackle the free ascent, I myself didn't let go of the cable for a moment.
Surprisingly, the descent from the tower due to smooth rocks and already tired arms is quite challenging, almost I could say I ascended easier than later descended.
Of course it's a shame to descend back to the valley, so continuation to Košutnikov turn and return via ferrata ÖTK Steig Neu is almost obligatory.
On this part I'd like to warn about crumbly rock and falling stones! Follows adrenaline thrill on the wobbly bridge and descent to scree...
Wonderful tour, with exceptional views and variety. Mandatory good fitness and equipment. Those with vertigo better avoid it nasmeh
Pero#2424. 10. 2013
Hello,

I'm interested in where the most suitable descent is if you go down this path.

Thanks, lpp
jax25. 10. 2013
The most natural is via the via ferrata from Košutnikov turn. You can also go down the eastern gully, but it's apparently quite dangerous due to rocks.
The only somewhat more normal descent is along the marked path around Tolsta Košuta, which is a damn big detour.
ljubitelj gora25. 10. 2013
Pero, if it helps, last year I went to Cjajnik then along the ridge to Košutnikov Turn and then descended back to the saddle, from there a short secured path goes to the scree on the S side, before the bridge another secured path branches off and then through the scree back to the hut.

Photos:
Cjajnik-Košutnikov Turn
https://picasaweb.google.com/114400986607884783562/CjajnikKosutnikovTurn

Ridge Košutnikov Turn-Tolsta Košuta
https://picasaweb.google.com/114400986607884783562/GrebenskoPrecenjeKosutnikovTurnTolstaKosuta

neyo25. 08. 2015
I have a question. If I go to Košutnikov Turn from the Dolge Njive pasture, how far is it still to the high bridge. I would just like to go over the high bridge and then back to Dolge Njive. I'm interested in the time for the complete tour. I would go tomorrow. I hope the weather holds.
ms_primoz25. 08. 2015
From the top of Košutnikov Turn to the bridge is about 20 min... but without self-belay gear I don't recommend it to you.
neyo25. 08. 2015
Thanks for the reply. I have the self-belay kit. Best regards
mukica4. 08. 2017
Yesterday's climbed path to Cjajnik and continuation to Košutnikov Turn started in quite a fresh morning, on the scree it was already quite hot, but in the wall it was honestly hot for me. Path without peculiarities, as written...requires some strength in arms, climbing skills and knowledge of using protections...Happy that my wish came true and I will be glad if I return againnasmeh
ŠpRo294. 08. 2017
Bravo, congratulations. Also my wish. Can I ask, is the path to Košutnikov Turn well marked? What about descent from Cjajnik, it looks quite vertical in the picture.
How much time difference is there between path C and D?
Thanks in advance.
mukica4. 08. 2017
Yes, the path ahead is marked, albeit with faded red markers, but the trail is very well visible... no problem. The descent is as it looks, vertical... I won't repeat the difference between C and D, probably just a few minutes, because part of the descent is then on C... and then it redirects towards the marked path to Košutnikov Turn.
ŠpRo294. 08. 2017
Thanks, how much time from Cjajnik to Košutnikov Turn?
ŠpRo296. 08. 2017
Yesterday I did this tour and yes, I also liked it very much and it left enthusiasm. The fixed protections in excellent condition, strength in hands and also in legs very welcome.
Grega9228. 05. 2018
Hi
Has anyone been through the via ferrata recently, is there still any snow?
peterr28. 05. 2018
Yesterday I saw on FB (Gorski svedri) that the via ferrata is closed due to damage. Check
Grega9228. 05. 2018
Thanks
zlatorogus19. 07. 2018
Hello! Does anyone have info if the via ferrata is already open?
turbo19. 07. 2018
They will know best here:

http://www.koschutahaus.at/
zlatorogus19. 07. 2018
Thanks for the link. I called and the guy says the via ferrata is open. zuppa gut!
janezs7320. 07. 2018
This week after work: from Koča pod Košuto to Cjajnik, over the notch to the main ridge, to Košutnikov Turn and down via OTK. All paths are passable, no snow anywhere, some fixed ropes might be looser, but nothing problematic.
Turbolazec12. 06. 2020
Hi! Does anyone know what the conditions are like? Is there still some snow or is the path normally passable?
jax12. 06. 2020
Completely passable. Some snow might be only on the descent via the variant that avoids the bridge. Therefore I recommend descent via the bridge.
Turbolazec12. 06. 2020
Thanks, the plan is also to descend via the bridge.
Tadeja_hribi6. 10. 2020
For me personally one of the most beautiful circular trails in the area. Truly enchanting, but demanding.

I'm also attaching a trail description and information about the trail.
https://tadejatravels.com/clanek/plezanje/znamenita-ferata-na-cjajnik-ki-z-vrhom-kosutnikovega-turna-sestavlja-precudovita-krozno-turo/

I recommend!
fjr23. 07. 2021 06:29:01
Nice regards. I'm asking if the path is already passable without winter gear. Thanks.
Lukito23. 07. 2021 15:04:51
On Wednesday they climbed both Cjajnik and Košutnikov turn, on the Slovenian side there's no snow anywhere, I don't know about the Austrian side, but I didn't see them carrying winter gear. Good luck.
mikkeni16. 08. 2022 21:49:04
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