Dom v Kamniški Bistrici - Kamniška koča na Kamniškem sedlu
Starting point: Dom v Kamniški Bistrici (601 m)
| Latitude/Longitude: | 46,3271°N 14,5893°E |
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Walking time: 3 h 45 min
Difficulty: easy marked way
Elevation gain: 1263 m
Elevation difference along the route: 1263 m
Map: Kamniške in Savinjske Alpe 1:50.000
Recommended equipment (summer):
Recommended equipment (winter): ice axe, crampons
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Access to starting point:
We drive to Kamnik and follow the road ahead towards the Kamniška Bistrica valley, where we park on a large parking lot near the mountain hut Dom v Kamniški Bistrici.
Route description:
From the parking lot in front of the mountain hut Dom v Kamniški Bistrici we continue on the initially still asphalted road, which after a short ascent quickly brings us into the forest. After a few minutes of walking the trail markers for Kamniško sedlo direct us to the right on a steep footpath, which a little higher brings us to an interesting passage below overhanging cliffs. The still steep path then brings us to the bottom station of a cargo cableway, where we step on the road. We continue left and then already after a few steps sharply right. The relatively steep forest path higher brings us to a cart track, which we follow a few dozen meters to the right, and then the blazes direct us to the left, where after a steep initial ascent the steepness decreases. Further in a gentle diagonal ascent we cross relatively steep slopes, after which from the left the path from the higher starting point (Jermanca) joins us. The well-marked and relatively steep path, which is still ascending through the forest for some time, higher brings us to a pleasant spring (in dry periods it dries up). From the spring a short ascent follows and the path brings us to the known resting place Pri Pastirjih, where an emergency bivouac stands.
We continue straight on the marked path, which then quickly passes from the forest onto an ample panoramic meadow. Behind the meadow the path goes into a belt of dwarf pines, where it starts to ascend more steeply again. The path, which further runs along an increasingly panoramic sunny slope, brings us after a good hour of walking from the Pastirji to the Kamniška koča na Kamniškem sedlu.
Dom v Kamniški Bistrici - Pri Pastirjih 2:30, Pri Pastirjih - Kamniška koča 1:15.
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Discussion about the trip Dom v Kamniški Bistrici - Kamniška koča na Kamniškem sedlu
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| Gost29. 09. 2006 |
Strenuous, but very pleasant excursion (knees suffer on the way back). In sunny weather, a stopover on the meadow with gentians, a little off Pastirci, is worthwhile. Wonderful!
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| Gost21. 04. 2007 |
comment, hm I don't know yet, because I'm going up tomorrow morning
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| Gost1. 05. 2007 |
The path is quite demanding, not recommended for beginners without fitness. I myself completely drained all my batteries.
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| Gost25. 06. 2007 |
Brane V. Went from here to Kamniško sedlo and further to Turska gora. The path to Kamniško sedlo is only somewhat long followed by strenuousness, even a less fit hiker can manage it, just a lot of resting in between.
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| Gost27. 06. 2007 |
Nicer approach to Kamniško sedlo is from Okrešelj - because of the nice views, but nevertheless not shorter and less strenuous. Yes, to get to Kamniško you do need to "sweat a bit".
The path from Korošica to Kamniško is also very nice.
Good luck!
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| majdicst16. 08. 2007 |
I hiked the path down yesterday (thank God, uphill must be just right unpleasant and time-consuming) and met a few hundred people panting uphill. At the hut on the saddle there were probably at least 500-600 people. Real "pilgrims' path"! In Kamniška Bistrica you had big problems finding a table space to drink your well-deserved beer.
Although we were really slow (two hikers with knee problems), we took about 2 hours 45 minutes from the saddle to the valley. For the uphill in 3:30 you need quite some fitness - it says 3:45 below, in PZS Guidebook 3:30 to 4:00.
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| andrej76722. 08. 2007 |
Yes, I was on Planjava that day and on a slightly later return the full "glory" of the so-called divine path showed itself. Lots of fresh cans, bottles and various papers - in short, such hikers are probably not wanted even on Šmarna gora, let alone here where everyone wants to find some peace and clean nature.
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| Gost22. 08. 2007 |
We were on Brana that day. We started at 6.00 from Jermanca and thus avoided the crowds and heat. Really very nice and not too strenuous path, so I recommend it. It really pays to start early, especially because of the heat and to avoid crowds.
Polona
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| Gost17. 09. 2007 |
On Saturday I was at Kamniško sedlo, via the path from Okrešelj. Really wonderful view, some loud hikers who disturbed the wonderful peace in the mountain world.
The path itself was quite strenuous for me in the last part, perhaps a bit of fear of the open valley , mainly due to the slippery terrain. Once you leave the safe world of chains and pegs, you need to be even more careful. I'm more of a beginner mountaineer and these are completely new mountain adventures for me.
Lots of enjoyment and good luck!
Nataša
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| Gost23. 09. 2007 |
When I first tried Kamniško sedlo without fitness, on the way back I was gritting my teeth hard.. it's quite strenuous on the knees.
But already from the saddle there's a wonderful view especially towards Logarska, although the path from Okrešelj is much more scenic and less boring.
The lower part through the forest drags on.....
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| Gost17. 10. 2007 |
What, did only retirees go up there? Kamniško sedlo is a nice trip for the afternoon. Walking in both directions is realistically 4.5 hours. Only on the way back you have to watch out not to get caught by darkness (because the lower part is overgrown - when you enter the forest from the clearing it suddenly gets dark).
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| Gost17. 10. 2007 |
another racer
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| Gost18. 10. 2007 |
The simplest math (for an average hiker) is 400 m per hour and add 1 hour for every 5 km of path
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| Gost18. 10. 2007 |
Until now I was convinced that the "rule" is 300 vertical meters per hour?
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| Gost19. 10. 2007 |
Where do you add breaks? The data means total time after all
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| Gost19. 10. 2007 |
As far as I know, time data never includes intermediate breaks, only the "pure" walking time. Walking itself is very dependent on the individual, and the need for breaks even more so, so it's probably not possible to predict that.
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| Gost19. 10. 2007 |
Of course everyone plans their own time. My intention was just to show one of many ways to estimate the duration of a particular hike
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| Gost21. 10. 2007 |
oh man I needed 1.5h from parking and then still 1h down, up and down quickly to see a lot
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| Gost21. 10. 2007 |
What does it matter how long someone takes to go up and back down! The important thing is caution while walking and strictly following the weather forecast!
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| Gost21. 10. 2007 |
Actually, realistically for mountaineering walking up 2h down a solid hour. Now there's probably snow up there already so you'll need to add some time.
Best regards Tine
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| Gost22. 10. 2007 |
Even a mountain runner in good condition reaches the saddle in two hours. The path has 1300m elevation gain!
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| Gost22. 10. 2007 |
After all this data, Guest on 21.10 is the absolute record holder of this route.
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| Gost23. 10. 2007 |
Yes, probably - he could reveal himself publicly, since it's certainly an internationally recognized record holder in mountain running,
so at least we'll definitely know who holds this (shame, unofficial?) current record
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| majdicst24. 10. 2007 |
Hmmm, somehow this debate doesn't belong under the trail comment and it incredibly reminds me of very similar debates on the PZS forum. I think it would be better if we focused on what this page is intended for - trail comment, not who is faster....
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| Gost24. 10. 2007 |
Majdicst, I completely agree with you. Time is measured at competitions where anyone can sign up. Here there should be useful information.
So the described trip is a strenuous tour as you have to cover a lot of elevation gain. I recommend setting off early to avoid the scorching sun.
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| počasni19. 06. 2008 |
I agree with what's written above, however it's true that for me the times on the signs mostly don't apply and I most often arrive late... That's why I'm interested in the criteria by which walking time is measured, so I could approximately calculate my delay time.
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| Tadej19. 06. 2008 |
The times stated in the description represent the approximate walking time of an average hiker in dry conditions. Breaks are not included in the walking time.
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| Brane7119. 06. 2008 |
Slow down, it's important to plan the tour according to your abilities. If you say you always take more than indicated on the signs, just note it for yourself so you can properly plan the hiking duration. I'm a pretty good walker myself and from my own experience I can tell you that even the times on the signposts can be misleading. Sometimes I use 60% of the estimated time, sometimes exactly as indicated. I took 2 hours and 10 minutes from Dom v Kamniški Bistrici to the saddle including breaks and I'm no mountain runner but just a hiker with solid fitness, but time isn't important, what's important is to hike according to your abilities and plan the tour properly.
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| Trd oreh26. 07. 2008 |
Awesome, awesome. On the descent watch your step as the knees get wobbly and you can fall. Goulash with polenta was excellent. At the top a bit of fog and live music Running through the scree fun although I know it's not the smartest thing...
LP
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| prlekj8. 06. 2009 |
Last year end of July I did the trail from Okrešelj! But I'm interested in what the trail is like now or in general from K. Bistrica (depending on the season)?
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| viharnik8. 06. 2009 |
The trail is impeccable, not washed away even in winter, short snow patches above that pose no obstacle.
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| urshy27. 07. 2009 |
Beautiful trip, especially compared to Saturday's Rombon this is a walk. The trail is easy and pleasant, in several places you nicely stretch your legs on the flat. The last ascent is not too strenuous either, but it's good to go early, because the sun can really bake there.
Walking from Kamniška to the top (including stops for drinks) takes 3 hours.
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| Mate0724. 08. 2009 |
Despite having 110 kg I reached Kamniško sedlo easily, I would have continued to the neighbouring peaks, but there was low cloud cover.
I started from Kamniška B. (600m)
I really liked the path itself.
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| VanSims30. 10. 2009 |
Went once in September this year. I also needed about 3 hours up. It was a bit strenuous though not too bad. Towards the end before the summit it drags a bit. Downhill from somewhere around the lower station of the cargo cableway the knees suffer a bit.
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| pavaonurmi9. 06. 2010 |
The path is top-notch, allows quick walking except after crossing the forest line. The times on the signs are a bit strange. From Dom v Kamniški Bistrici to the saddle it's exactly 1:45, not 3:45. Today it was blowing "very" hard on the saddle. Carpe diem.
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| jprim9. 06. 2010 |
Regarding times, don't start bragging about your own achievements again like many like to do, I think achievements are more personal control of abilities, times are for the average hiker, better a few minutes more than less, then everyone is happier if under the limit.
LP!
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The ascent was wonderful today. Wind started blowing around 1600m. At the top around 50km/h. But it was a pleasant tour today. Times... I'm already home a good while!!!
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| klm24. 06. 2010 |
Today morning I visited the saddle as a tourist. During the ascent I met the Markuš brothers, who were descending and predicted strong wind reaching up to 70 km/h in gusts. On the saddle I managed to take 3-4 photos, then due to frozen fingers I quickly descended. With a backpack I needed 1h 20 min. from home in Kamniška Bistrica, otherwise I needed just under 1h for this path in record time.
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| martha11. 07. 2010 |
On Sunday 4.6.2010 we forgot our Merrell hiking boots size 44 at the last parking lot under Kamniško sedlo, please if anyone finds them could send them to us or we can come pick them up sometime. We're from the coast.
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| carpediem4. 08. 2010 |
pleasant tour, if you have just some fitness. on this path we needed two hours to the top. sometimes only the strong wind can be annoying, otherwise it's a super choice for a hike!
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| pelican12. 08. 2010 |
Yesterday I was up there in a good two hours - in the afternoon. Super tour!
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| ljubitelj gora3. 10. 2010 |
Today at the saddle in 1:40 hours to the saddle from KB
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| klm4. 10. 2010 |
BEFORE THE RECORD DESCENDED IN 17 MINUTES, 53 SEC.
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| klm4. 10. 2010 |
AHA...FROM THE HUT AT KAMNIŠKO SEDLO TO THE HUT IN KAMNIŠKA BISTRICA...
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| tol4. 10. 2010 |
Wardens have already been at work. So I'm warning you to avoid a fine for ignoring the sign "Permitted for residents only", park at the Dom v Kamniški Bistrici.
They also issued a few tickets at Jermanci.
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| tol4. 10. 2010 |
Wardens have already been at work. So I'm warning you to avoid a fine for ignoring the sign "Permitted for residents only", park at the Dom v Kamniški Bistrici.
They also issued a few tickets at Jermanci.
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| pikec14. 10. 2010 |
klm, I don't believe you needed less than 18 minutes from the top of Kamniškega sedla to Dom v Kamniški Bistrici. Impossible, unless with a parachute, don't post such nonsense!
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| BACEK JON4. 10. 2010 |
klm, even if you're a flying squirrel it's very hard, otherwise IMPOSSIBLE, but I have to admit you made me laugh well.
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| klm4. 10. 2010 |
bacek jon, that's why I wrote it... I got a bit excited. Anyway, I know how to descend, Bojan can confirm that too, so add about 5 minutes to those poor 18 minutes and we're at real time. Damn, I'm fast!
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| pikec14. 10. 2010 |
klm for 25min I'll go with you to see if you really do it that fast
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| Bojan_A4. 10. 2010 |
Klemen is crazy at descents. I don't know how he does it, but he does... How much time you have from Kamniško sedlo I don't know.
I just precisely know for myself how long it would take me up. But again, Wyatt has the record: Koča v Kamniški Bistrici - Kokrsko sedlo: 45 minutes.
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| tol4. 10. 2010 |
Your times are entirely your business and not ours.
The topic is losing value, especially if someone misses that wardens are issuing fines for ignoring the traffic sign at Dom v K.B. because of your rushing and boasting about times.
Bravo guys.
Go to some race and compare your times with others there....
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| klm4. 10. 2010 |
Tol, don't be mad. Even I noticed despite rushing THAT WARDENS ARE ISSUING FINES FOR IGNORING THE TRAFFIC SIGN - PERMITTED ONLY TO RESIDENTS - AT DOM V KAMNIŠKI BISTRICI!!!
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| ljubitelj gora4. 10. 2010 |
I left the car in Kamniška Bistrica at the hut.
No point driving higher with the car.
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| PrimožL5. 10. 2010 |
If you're not going climbing, it's nice to drive to Jermance.
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| jprim5. 10. 2010 |
Someone close to the starting point really doesn't care where to leave the car, but for some it means a bit more.
Especially if the hike is longer and planned as a day trip; it means instead of getting up at 3:30 a.m. you have to at 2:30 a.m.
For us, this ban will mean that we will rarely choose this starting point.
If we just go to Kamniško sedlo, no problem, as we've already left the car there twice, but for a longer variant - difficult.
LP and I admit, I do care.
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| PrimožL5. 10. 2010 |
You can't park anywhere further ahead from the Dom in Kamniška Bistrica.
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| dj125. 10. 2010 |
Yeah, what if you're going to Kokrško Sedlo, you can't go by car to the freight cable car either? ??
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| tol6. 10. 2010 |
Since they changed the traffic sign which now says "Permitted only for residents" and above it the sign prohibiting traffic for motor vehicles.
The sign is where it always was, at the Dom v Kamniški Bistrici.
Wardens are occasionally on duty, so decide for yourselves whether to risk the fine or walk a bit more...
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| bari6. 10. 2010 |
does it depend on that whether you drive up or not???
dear hikers walk on foot if you are hikers. all excuses are just some nonsense!
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| klm6. 10. 2010 |
the penalty for violation is: monthly seizure of the personal car, 3-week revocation of driving license, 3400 euros monetary fine and 3-year ban on entering the valley of beautiful Kamniška Bistrica.
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| viharnik6. 10. 2010 |
Don't inflate these poor laws on parking bans in valleys. There is nowhere more than 40€ fine for such violation, because for 3400€ every second visitor-hiker would have to sell their own car.
I know a case where a man was fined for a poorly half-stuck toll sticker in the middle of the windshield. The fine then amounted to about 300 €. But the man didn't give up, claiming he bought it himself and has the receipt and is not guilty if it's a bit poorly stuck, he didn't know. He went to the DARS boss and sorted it out. Only the stupid or too honest pay, for quasi-local erectors of roadside monuments-signs. But we still parked by the freight cable car, where there is a roadside parking space and it bothers no one, since the freight access is on the other side of the road. By this I don't mean that I am too lazy for those few km of walking, but if I look abroad at their parking lots, nowhere do they pretend and change parking regimes in valleys like only here in Slovenia!.
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| bari6. 10. 2010 |
"By this I don't mean that I am too lazy for those few km of walking..."
Yes you are, Viharnik! Exactly that, too lazy! And behind and in front of you many more; say jprim.
You just have to find a suitable tour for yourself and stop whining and start walking, instead of driving to the last bush, dear "hiking drivers".
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| viharnik6. 10. 2010 |
Well, according to you. I can walk up to nine or ten hours a day on hikes. What bothers me a lot is if someone in broad daylight decides to change the valley regimes that have held for many years, ever since I've been going to the mountains. Even abroad they have mountain parks, but local traffic managers aren't as narrow-minded as ours, and you know exactly where you'll park. Parking lots even have names. I don't know what ours want to achieve with this. They might just reduce visits to the valley, since they don't even know how to provide for basic parking or increase them appropriately for the area's visitation. What bothers me most about this is that from now on, you'll have to figure out in the morning for each valley separately where you'll park and if you'll be allowed at all. As for Smolnikar, if he's still mayor, it's already clear to me. Regards
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| pikec16. 10. 2010 |
Bari, what the f...k are you doing here bragging like that, have you even been anywhere, I bet you just sit in front of the computer and crap...
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| klm6. 10. 2010 |
Smolnikar won't be mayor from Sunday anymore... his legacy will still be visible for a while...
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| tol6. 10. 2010 |
Smolnikar will still be Mayor on Sunday
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| bari6. 10. 2010 |
Well, after Smolnikar you'll get an experienced joker who's already changed political colors on official duty before.
pikec 1 and others, keep calm. Regimes do change. I agree that in Slovenia it's quite Balkan-style, but somehow we have to start. New rules so we won't drive on every track, we'll have to accept them.
and no (camouflaged) cursing, please
but maybe then you'll huff less to Jermanco or to the cableway on K. sedlo.
oh, pikec 190 cm and 82 kg, over 100 high mountain tours a year, but without posting online. OK?
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| Gorska rožica6. 10. 2010 |
I feel sorry for the car and nature too!!! I'd rather walk those extra 30 minutes, even if I'm going on a longer tour and not just to the saddle, are you really hikers?!?
And I'm not as fast as you who just boast about time....
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| bari6. 10. 2010 |
Bravo, Gorka rožica!
Finally someone who thinks like a mountaineer. The others would just drive, whine and curse on top when the cat (wardens) steps on their tail.
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| tol6. 10. 2010 |
The issue is more comprehensive.
On Sundays there's already a crowd in the parking lot in front of the hut in KB anyway. And mostly because of visitors who just see the spring, the hut and the memorial park.
Now imagine, in the best case, we all really leave our cars in the parking lot in front of the hut and head to the mountains from there in KB. That alone will be chaos squared.
And the other arrivals won't be able to park or where? At the lower cable car station?
On a nice sunny day, with traffic signage taken into account, there will be real chaos.
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| Gorska rožica6. 10. 2010 |
First come, first served.... Nice that you care where others will park - but that's already a problem almost everywhere, too much of that "tin". Visitors come and go...
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| tol6. 10. 2010 |
Visitors come, park wherever, rush clumsily, park along the road (that's why ditches are made, verges damaged, grass, small bushes), ....
Regarding there being too much tin...
as a mountain biker, many look at me sideways when I ride on the hiking trail, even though I bike to the mountains from my doorstep...
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| PrimožL7. 10. 2010 |
I assume that Gorska rožica and bari walk from Mojstrana to Vrat valley when going e.g. to Triglav via Prag and don't drive to the parking lot at Aljažev dom?
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| pikec17. 10. 2010 |
Bari, post something so we can see, not just talk.
Hey I see we're the same size, but you're almost 20 kg lighter (don't think it's spying)
It annoyed me a bit when some who post nothing then pontificate.............
And best regards
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| jprim7. 10. 2010 |
BARI
6.10.2010 "I don't mean that I'm too lazy for those few km of walking..."
Yes you are, Viharnik! Exactly that, too lazy! And many before and after you; for example jprim.
You need to find a suitable hike for yourself and stop whining and start walking, instead of driving to the last bush, dear "hiking drivers".
Kid, if you don't know anything ... don't judge others.
Who gives you the right to rant like that without any second thoughts.
Think carefully before you write something, and before that try to read the matter several times with understanding.
Regards!
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| Iguana7. 10. 2010 |
Does that mean it's better to leave the car in front of the hut on Saturday morning and walk all the way to Kokrsko sedlo as well? I wanted to stretch my legs a bit before the afternoon party. How much longer does the path get?
regards
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| jprim7. 10. 2010 |
I have never walked to the cargo cableway, so I don't know, but it would probably be about 45 minutes.
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| bari7. 10. 2010 |
Does the kid have no idea about what?
Let's go again. Jprim as far as I know, you like to photograph nature, flowers, everything beautiful. Hm, why don't you have car sheet metal in your photos, but only idyll?
Grega same, very nice sunrise photos and other beautiful things. Both of you are nature lovers, big lovers. Why are you suddenly upset and can't understand that you should respect that same nature you love so much a bit more and not stink up the nooks of the valleys?!
Self-limitation is obviously devilishly annoying!
To Jermanca we don't need to walk along the long asphalt road. We cross it twice and that's it. Only below through the first climb past the hut do we have to use it, and we can even avoid that part. To Kokrsko sedlo it's only 15 min walk along the road. So the reason that we won't walk along the road either is gone.
And one more thing. If our ancestors had built a road to the Pastirci and we had been driving up there until this year, we would now be upset because of the restriction (say only to Jermanca) that we won't walk because there's a road.
Jprim, "nature lover", how high would you still like to go with the roads?! You know, the kid who according to you has no idea has been going to the mountains since childhood, not just the last few mature years, looks at many things completely differently, but you won't understand that unless you try hard.
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| bari7. 10. 2010 |
jprim
"I have never walked to the cargo cableway, so I don't know, but it would probably be about 45 minutes."
And you are "like" some mountaineer?! Oh dear, where are we heading. It's obviously really time to close such roads to people who can't see beyond their own fence; pardon, their own car in the middle of nature.
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| bari7. 10. 2010 |
Ah yes, one more thing. Why in winter, when it's not plowed (those of us who go then too), can we park nicely at the Dom. I remember how there were often dangerous conditions and you could only get to the start of Žmavcarji. Next week again and again... And no one had a problem with those extra half hour of walking. And the day is much shorter then...
Here some summer strollers chime in and say kids have no idea, but they themselves have NEVER walked to the cableway.
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| pikec17. 10. 2010 |
Yeah, nothing, then we'll walk a bit longer, right? As if that's a problem, since in winter (ca. 40min) we'll do it in summer too. Bari now calm down a bit , or you'll go gray too fast, if you're not already
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| jprim7. 10. 2010 |
Even if you're no longer a kid, at least your posts sound childish and immature ...
If you were a mountaineer with experience, a real mountaineer or true highlander with heart, your posts would sound completely different.
You still don't get what I'm trying to say.
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| jprim7. 10. 2010 |
BARI
Why are you suddenly upset and can't understand, ....
... you're the only one getting upset.
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| bari7. 10. 2010 |
Here, calmed down.
You say so, but gray hairs really know everything. 
Jprim, I get it.
And if you also get what I wanted to say with my (childish = immature) posts, the goal is achieved, right?
You didn't get it all until I put it a bit more bluntly.
By the way, if you were a real mountaineer, highlander or hiker, your posts would sound completely different from: "I have never walked to the cargo cableway."
But let's leave that ...
Better hit the trail, leave the poor car in the valley. Thanks for agreeing. Tell others too.
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| jprim7. 10. 2010 |
Why are you so allergic to cars ...
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| jprim7. 10. 2010 |
The way you comment on things is not right, think about a different approach.
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| bari7. 10. 2010 |
Well, I'm not even allergic to cars, but I am allergic to "nature lovers" who drive until they can park that box on four wheels.
Excellent, jprim!
"Approach" is an excellent word.
But doesn't the "approach" to the cargo cableway at Kokrsko sedlo sound much better than driving right there.
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| tol7. 10. 2010 |
@bari
so by this logic, do mountain bikers deserve to use hiking trails more than hikers who drive to the hut in KB?
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| bari7. 10. 2010 |
Mountain bikers are much better in this regard than motorized hikers, as they mostly without exception start their tours in the valley and not at the end of forest roads. Above all, they ride uphill with their own power.
One more thing. Do you remember that years ago the road to the cargo cableway was very bad, and to the forest clearing V Koncu there was only a torn cart track. How is it today? They fixed the road to the clearing and hill climbers happily drive there too. At some point it has to stop and start walking - or riding a bike.
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| jprim7. 10. 2010 |
Bari, where do you pick up that anger burning in you, you know it's not good that...
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| Gorska rožica7. 10. 2010 |
Go to the sunshine instead!! My car only drives on asphalt roads, my legs go further into the mountain paradise, even from Mojstrana to Triglavski raj ...Primožl, come with me sometime, you won't get bored ...
To Jermanca is a good half hour and it's really pleasant... Nice greetings to all!
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| Iguana7. 10. 2010 |
I'll go anyway, whether it's 15 or 45 minutes. I'm not a sprinter, I'm slower but with pleasure. If I walk three hours up and two down, that's fine too. How often do we have to walk a kilometer on the road before we bite into the steep part, but we don't get angry.
Bari, please don't get too angry, anger also......grows. Come to the meeting on Saturday afternoon, have some fun and say something smart, since you have quite a good mileage, as you wrote.
A slightly sunny greeting to all.
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| PrimožL8. 10. 2010 |
Ooo Gorska rožica, thanks for the invitation! Anyway, I'm not bored either.
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| bari8. 10. 2010 |
@jprim
yeah, what was wrong again this time?!
I wish you pleasant driving in the mountains.
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| potepinka8. 10. 2010 |
My opinion is that they designated the road "for use at your own risk" "only for residents" mainly because more and more people were testing the capacity of their new SUVs on these two paths (to Jermanco and to the cable car for Kokrsko sedlo). I conclude from the fact that in half an hour of walking from Jermanca, you can meet "the same hero" who is already climbing for the third time (with the car, of course, and he's even angry if you don't get out of the way quickly enough)
It is true that such people probably don't get fines (nor do they get out of the car), but those who park the car and go hiking do.
Anyway - good thing I'm not a fan of driving uphill.
For me, walking on the forest path towards Kamniško sedlo is more pleasant than walking on the road to the cable car for Kokrsko sedlo. Time-wise, they are approximately similar, as predecessors wrote, around 45 minutes (ok, the fast ones have less).
Anyway, I have nothing against arranging a parking lot at the end of Kamnik and introducing a shuttle bus to Kamniška Bistrica.
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| penzionist8. 10. 2010 |
I am also immediately in favor of completely closing off the entire Kamnik, Kranjska Gora, and even Ljubljana (especially in the slightly wider area around the parliament) to all traffic. Even following the example of Zermatt. Those two times a year when I go through, I will have no problem using my legs or the bus.
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| nk9. 10. 2010 |
That they went to change the board on this sign at the Dom in KB seems quite strange to me, since according to the Decree on the categorization of municipal roads in the Municipality of Kamnik published in the Official Gazette on 6.2.2009 (No. 9/2009), the roads to the cable car for KS, to Jermanca and to Konec are categorized as public paths, and the purpose of use for all three is marked V, which means all vehicles.
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| ljubitelj gora9. 10. 2010 |
That's because the forest owners, weekend cottage owners.... complained.
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| tol9. 10. 2010 |
Are there weekend cottages in the Kamniška Bistrica valley?
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| klm9. 10. 2010 |
there are as many as there are mushrooms...
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| tol9. 10. 2010 |
Tell me one weekend further from the hut in K.B.?
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| klm9. 10. 2010 |
I mustn't...they are all without papers w....
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| biso9. 10. 2010 |
maybe yours too
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| tol9. 10. 2010 |
Aha: you got caught in your own lame joke.
Weekenders who don't have papers for that went complaining to the municipal administration to change the traffic signage....
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| Iguana10. 10. 2010 |
BARI, BARI, Baaaaariiiiii.....look at yesterday's Žagana peč, where were the rangers? And that's not all, up to the cable car for Kokrsko sedlo I counted at least another thirty(30) cars, not to mention how many were driving towards Jermanci. I "honest citizen" walked from Kamniška Bistrica. Can I go next time by car to the first parking spot so that they don't catch me at Grintovec?
Ugh, how do I add a picture? That's giving me trouble
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| Tadej10. 10. 2010 |
Hello,
you can post pictures only in the section "Current conditions - forum".
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| Iguana10. 10. 2010 |
Tadej, but I didn't notice anywhere that I can add an attachment....is something missing in my settings?
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| Iguana10. 10. 2010 |
Found it, but it posted three times...horror, I'm really not used to these gadgets yet.
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| pelican10. 10. 2010 |
I also deliberately drove further from the Dom to check, and it was full of cars...
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| panda10. 10. 2010 |
I don't know what you're getting so upset about. Those who don't want to drive further from the Dom in Kamniška Bistrica, park there. Those who want to drive on, do so if you find parking. The biggest penalty is not finding parking at the cargo cableway (Žagana peč) or at Jermanca, if you're late and have to take a test in turning around or reversing. Don't waste unnecessary energy. LP
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| Gorska rožica10. 10. 2010 |
Some people have nothing better to do .. so they drive around looking at parking lots ....
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| bari10. 10. 2010 |
"BARI, BARI, Baaaaariiiiii.....look at yesterday's Žagana peč, where were the traffic wardens?"
Iguana, follow the better ones, that's the only advice I can give you. There was probably also some car of an owner at the Dom in Kamniška Bistrica who climbed Grintovec today.
Maybe improve your fitness a bit so night doesn't catch you. Well, you have two more options. Sleep in the winter room at Kokrsko sedlo or buy a headlamp.
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| nita11. 10. 2010 |
This debate leads nowhere, as it brings too much negative energy. It's true that some overdo it and drive cars where they really don't need to, but on the other hand I understand those for whom an hour longer hike can cause problems, especially after the steep descent from Kamniško sedlo, where knees hurt and for some that half hour on the road to the car can be real agony.
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| pelican11. 10. 2010 |
Yes Gorska rožica, I drove a bit further - I was also interested in where this Žagana peč is, because I would go up sometime in the afternoon after work and then there isn't much time, as it gets dark quickly.
To Kokrško we have gone so far only from Suhadolnik!
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| Iguana11. 10. 2010 |
Gorska rožica: if you didn't read it, I parked in KB and walked from there to Kokrsko sedlo. I always carry a camera with me, as the best memories are photos you take yourself. Because there was a terrible polemic before my post, I took plenty of pictures.
Bari: I have a headlamp , fitness is still good and good mood is the best....
Even though my knees sometimes "bother me a bit"
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| panda11. 10. 2010 |
STOP IT, BECAUSE YOU ARE UNPRODUCTIVE! lp
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| jprim11. 10. 2010 |
Iquana
I have the feeling that men don't like us very much, at least on this forum, or they are allergic to individual women ... yes I admit we are in the minority, but we won't give up.
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| sherpa11. 10. 2010 |
oh oh women, we do like you
but it's true that with this nickname you could also be the middle gender
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| jprim11. 10. 2010 |
Did you mean the kid - that kid.
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| sherpa11. 10. 2010 |
No. I meant that girl.
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| jprim11. 10. 2010 |
I'm also happy with that, girl - nice, and nice memories.
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| Kotman12. 10. 2010 |
Until when can one still go up this year?
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| Kotman15. 10. 2010 |
@JOŽE.
Including December 31st?
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| tol15. 10. 2010 |
@Kotman
Sorry, but your answer was really "useless"! The answer to your question is really funny!!! I haven't laughed like that in a long time!
Anyway, no one knows what you wanted to ask?
Kamniško sedlo is practically accessible every day, in snow and rain, because it's not a demanding tour.
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| Kotman15. 10. 2010 |
@tol
Thanks a lot for the information, keep the other comments to yourself.
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| Iguana15. 10. 2010 |
jmprim:
Maybe true, they don't like us very much
What if they just owe us and don't dare admit it
You're right, we won't let ourselves be driven away just like that, from the forum
Have a nice weekend in the valley or up in the mountains
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| jprim15. 10. 2010 |
Well, I'm quite happy. If there are more of us ... tomorrow I'll go somewhere, hope the weather holds.
Jelči - my teenage nickname.
LP!
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| Iguana16. 10. 2010 |
jprim:
Then just like a teenager: Jelči
I'm going too......the weather will be good, at least in the morning
One last look at the mountains and the weather, backpack and I'm off....yay
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| andrej7674. 12. 2010 |
I'm really glad they've banned driving cars higher up - I don't say that those rare exceptions who have lots of climbing gear and a demanding tour ahead won't suffer but at least 90% of the others aren't deprived of fresh air recreation by this - quite the opposite!
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| tol4. 12. 2010 |
I can't imagine the chaos on a nice Sunday in the peak hiking season in front of the hut in K.B.
Or rather a million dinar quiz question: Where do we put all the hikers' vehicles that park at Konec pri Tovorni žičnic, at the memorial park, at the junction to Konec and Jermanca, at Jermanca and at the start of the path to Kam. sedlo. To these vehicles add tourists who only come to the spring of K.B?
Please reply.
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| pikec15. 12. 2010 |
Regards
Maybe on that meadow where they organize various picnics , I think there's enough space there
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| brincelj5. 12. 2010 |
WHAT ARE YOU ALL SO SMART? IF IT WERE UP TO ME THEY WOULD HAVE BUILT A TOLL BOOTH AT GAMSU AND CHARGED LIKE IN LOGARSKA DOLINA AND IT WOULD BE BETTER
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| JusAvgustin5. 12. 2010 |
yes, in my opinion from the hut to the cargo cableway is just right to warm up. and despite all the climbing gear that some of us carry. the gear gets distributed...
oh, brincelj? WHY ARE YOU DRINKING?
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| tol5. 12. 2010 |
You can set an example and park at Pri Gamsu and hike to your goal, even if you don't reach it. The path matters, not the goal!
No problem for winter tours where almost nothing but starting at the hut is possible, and fewer visitors too.
The problem is the peaks of summer season.
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| zdomec7. 12. 2010 |
Regarding parking in K. Bistrica I already wrote about a year ago.
The K. Bistrica valley should in my opinion be closed to private vehicles. Only rescue, police, fire brigade and bus should drive to the hut.
We don't need any barriers, but some awareness and order.
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| bostjan857. 12. 2010 |
best if we from Prlekija and all from more distant towns come on foot from home, just so we don't bother you with cars
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| mukica8. 12. 2010 |
My opinion on traffic regulation in Kamniška Bistrica is this:
installation of a barrier and toll payment as in some valleys and passes
Certainly car access as high as possible because many prefer walking on ridges rather than forest road, often the longer access saves a lot of time. Some are not physically able for long walks. In the past they even went by bike as high as possible because there was no other transport, and they even went to Triglav from Mojstrana. Who does that todayWe all drive as far as possible, whether we admit it or not
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| jprim8. 12. 2010 |
I completely agree with you - mukica, but because I think like that, I got quite some criticism, it seems to me that would really be the best solution, since my drive to the starting point takes 2 hours, then return home too, ...
LP!
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| joža x8. 12. 2010 |
And what would those who pay get out of it? Nothing. Someone will just cash in for nothing. Why not just close the valley to motor vehicles, if we care about nature and peace period. How someone gets to a peak with longer approach is their problem. With closures we will get rid of sporty tourists, trash, vandalism etc., innkeepers will complain but if we care about nature... We will get cleaner air and peace in mountain valleys. That's the view of a true mountaineer who goes e.g. to Porezen from Cerkno
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| jprim8. 12. 2010 |
That's the view of a true mountaineer who goes e.g. to Porezen from Cerkno ...
But who is that mountaineer?
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| Micky8. 12. 2010 |
It is necessary to arrange parking spaces in the right places, which can be relatively quite far from the starting point. Those who wish to walk will not find it an obstacle. In any case, car traffic in the valleys must be significantly restricted if we want to preserve nature. We need to take time for reflection and do it right.
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| nanica8. 12. 2010 |
My remark is silly like many others,
but nevertheless...
What if we also scrapped all gondolas, chairlifts and similar things that disturb nature and peace in the eyes of some??
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| zdomec8. 12. 2010 |
Gentlemen, with the installation of a barrier and toll collection we will not solve the main problem, -pollution of K. Bistrica and the environment.
If a barrier is installed, we will all grumble a bit, pay the toll and drive to the final starting points, including me. The competent municipality will nicely collect the money, but 99% of it will not be allocated and spent on environmental protection, but for other purposes.
So, if we want to do something serious for the protection of K. Bistrica, there is only the alternative of awareness and legal regulation of traffic.
These are the facts. We all know what traffic is like where tolls are collected. There has been no reduction in traffic at all, and the money is spent on other purposes.
LP!
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| joža x8. 12. 2010 |
Zdomec, that's exactly what I wrote too. Bravo!
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| mukica8. 12. 2010 |
It is not true that no one will get anything from the collected money. If it went into a fund for nature preservation or ecology - in short, earmarked use, many would benefit from it. And drivers would think twice about going to Kamniška for a drink (IF WE PAID HEFTILY) or stopping earlier. These are the ones who most endanger the environment and other participants in the valley. I completely agree that hikers try to walk as much as possible, but UNDERSTAND that NOT EVERYONE CAN ALWAYS. Let's be a little patient and not expect everyone to think and walk the same way. A true hiker can go on foot from Murska Sobota to Triglav or to Ankaran for all I care. I (and I consider myself a true hiker, about 50 tours a year, half high mountains) and many others cannot manage that. But in summer I often bike to Kamniška (when cycling), but when going to the mountains, I drive by car because I can't always do long or too long tours. I like to walk according to my abilities and health, and enough to enjoy and not be a burden to others due to exhaustion
Happy walking to all and lots of enjoyment in the mountains
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| joža x8. 12. 2010 |
The number of high mountain tours does not mean that you have a mountaineering spirit either, (it rather sounds like...) it would be more so if you walked from MS to Triglav.
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| bostjan858. 12. 2010 |
What if we banned all vehicles, factories, home heating throughout Slovenia.....and then the whole world would be clean. Oh oh, I'm not some mountaineer, but I like hiking in the mountains, due to the great distance only a few times a year, and if they did such stupid things as zdomec and jožax say, I wouldn't even be able to do that. I don't know if you two are owners of Kamniška Bistrica
I think we all pay road tax so that we can drive on them, even though they are bad. Because of these few cars, we really won't pollute nature, just look at other factors that spoil nature.
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| bari8. 12. 2010 |
yes, yes, everyone sees the other, but not themselves
joža x is right, the girls who consider themselves true hikers... Ah, it makes no sense
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| joža x8. 12. 2010 |
Boštjan owner of K.Bistrica is HE up there and already sends us tax for destroying nature in the form of hailstones falling from the sky. And what's stupid about leaving the car at Dom v K.Bistrici and walking further.
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| mukica8. 12. 2010 |
Joža x, I consider myself a hiker and live in the mountaineering spirit (not that other thing you're hinting at) I would be happy to MEET YOU on some mountain tour. But I conclude, like some predecessors, that it's a waste to discuss with YOU, because you stick to your own and don't even TRY to understand others. Most of US don't understand YOU
May bad weather not affect the mood
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| nanica8. 12. 2010 |
No, you see Bari, I was right when I initially wrote that my remark is silly like many others, namely yours too.
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| Micky9. 12. 2010 |
Because of the collected money, nature won't be any cleaner !!!!The money will be lost anyway. As always.
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| ljubitelj gora9. 12. 2010 |
And what's special about this valley compared to Logarska dolina, Vrata, Mangartsko sedlo...you would just impose parking fees, people will park even lower, half on the road.
Kamniška Bistrica at the hut (right before ascending) should have a barrier, end of debate.
Parking in Kamniška Bistrica is already free, isn't that enough, that visitors bring traffic to the hut in Kamniška Bistrica.
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| joža x9. 12. 2010 |
Nothing special lover, only at the top of the page is the description of the path Dom v Kamniški Bistrici - Kamniško sedlo, that's why so much about K.B. Otherwise, traffic is much more disturbing where there are huts, e.g. Ravenska Koča.
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| tol9. 12. 2010 |
The valley of Kamniška Bistrica is truly an undiscovered gem. Most know
the spring, the hut in KB, maybe the Orglice waterfall and that's it...
KB is a big sheep.
What we would/do with it is, in my opinion, a matter of the local community. And that's the problem of Kamnik, Kamniška Bistrica and Velika Planina...
What do we want?
Pristine nature, mass tourism and huge profits, or leave things half as they are now and do things haphazardly, from which almost no one benefits???
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| brincelj9. 12. 2010 |
DON'T YOU DO ANY OTHER WORK THAN THIS BISTRICA GO LEFT AND RIGHT LEAVE IT AS IT IS. AS FOR THE HUT ASK THE LJUBLJANA BUMS WHO ARE THE OWNERS.
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| JusAvgustin9. 12. 2010 |
and we have obvious problems with CapsLock?! Capital letters usually mean shouting... So: WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING????????????
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| jprim10. 12. 2010 |
Maybe he got scared of Bedanc.
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| Paintball7. 02. 2011 |
Oh boy. One wants to read opinions about the hiking trail, snow conditions... but all one finds is arguing about parking! There's nothing to discuss about this until there's a barrier at the house in K.B., beyond which driving won't be possible, or only for a fee, otherwise we'll keep driving through the forest. Elsewhere it's already arranged, but here... I think this question doesn't belong on this forum but on a municipal referendum.
so my question, is the trail already passable without crampons? Thanks for the answer
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| pureber12327. 04. 2011 |
I'm interested in what the conditions are like towards Kamniško sedloEnter here
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| gasperv27. 04. 2011 |
no special features. the path is completely dry.
best regards
G.
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| Janiel7415. 06. 2011 |
On Friday, vacation and I plan to go on this path
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| Janiel7416. 06. 2011 |
One piece of advice please: do you think trekking Salomon shoes are enough or are gojzar čevlj needed? thanks
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| Bojan_A16. 06. 2011 |
Sneakers are sufficient up to the saddle.
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| Janiel7417. 06. 2011 |
Made it without hiking boots
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| urbancek11. 07. 2011 |
Can someone please tell me what the stamp of Kamniška koča says? It's a bit torn and I can't read it? Regards and thanks!
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| urbancek11. 07. 2011 |
Now I saw something on a website... Jermanova vrata, right?
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| Bizy11. 07. 2011 |
That's right, Koča v Jermanovih vratih.
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| LukaSLO11. 07. 2011 |
@ Bojan A: Extremely irresponsible to say that sneakers are enough to the saddle. It's a reflection of not knowing the high mountain world. Of course, hiking boots are mandatory for the best safety. What sneakers, please?!
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| panda11. 07. 2011 |
Because he wears "sneakers", his ankle is in sh........ Last year he slipped, now he's advertising Salomons that they're enough to the saddle. Irresponsible, that's what it is. I always go to Donačka or Boč in mountain boots.
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| klm11. 07. 2011 |
I can't help but add something: sneakers are not enough for the ascent to Kamniško sedlo, as it's like walking barefoot. Whoever has such tough soles (like marathon runner Marko Roblek for example), will manage the big challenge at least from Pastirci onwards.
Running shoes are something completely different!
Because of this, I absolutely cannot agree with Bojan, nor with Luka, nor with Panda: Bojan actually shouldn't promote or agree that such footwear is sufficient. Namely, hikers' profiles vary, and due to clumsy and less experienced walkers who would take Bojan's statement as is, an accident, i.e. a sprain, could happen quickly.
But it happens to those with high boots too. Due to my profession, I have plenty of statistical data showing that sprains usually happen in high shoes - boots. Why? A boot won't protect the ankle from fracture or sprain, but it will protect us from terrible pain in case of a rock strike. The ankle is best strengthened by constant movement, running, hiking, mountaineering etc. Due to excessive static lifestyle, much less movement of people and increasingly sedentary behavior (also due to profession), the calf muscles and ligaments are too weak, not flexible enough, and the consequences are here. And we mustn't forget excessive human weight.
At the same time, I don't understand Panda, who attacks someone online he doesn't know, saying he's tangled up and doing advertising for Slomonke. I haven't seen advertising for this French footwear provider anywhere, but I know Bojan has never worn them in his life, let alone tested them. I don't know why, but this is actually typical for Slovenes and our politicians, to accuse someone of something - he's tangled up, so what. This has nothing to do with sneakers or boots. Be consistent in accusations and don't infringe on individuals' integrity.
Every time I visit Boč or Donačka, I climb them in running shoes. And I'll continue to do so.
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| Karletto8. 08. 2011 |
A bit strenuous for us 'with kilos', but it went.. Up there I met a roe deer and a family of chamois and an uncle in sneakers. Towards Rinka I saw snow in the middle of summer for the first time.
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| Kokta18. 09. 2011 |
Hey.....first time at Kamniško sedlo...start from Kamniška Bistrica. At the top very windy and a few raindrops, but I made it down to the valley in time. Really wonderful tour. The sign in the valley 3h45min a bit exaggerated.
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| _sandra_11. 01. 2012 |
Does anyone know if the winter room at Kamniško sedlo is open permanently?
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| gams4411. 01. 2012 |
Yes, all year round, if it's a nice weekend then also the hut.
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| tol11. 01. 2012 |
The winter room is for overnight stays when the hut is closed. The only obstacle would be snow preventing you from opening the door. With the mild winter now, no worry.
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| stoparB11. 01. 2012 |
Going on Saturday first time to Kamniško sedlo. Interested if the path is safe and if crampons alone are enough. Thanks for reply and LP
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| Irina11. 01. 2012 |
stoparB 11.1.2012
First time at all or first time in winter conditions?
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| _sandra_11. 01. 2012 |
ok super, you can get up there only with crampons, I know that
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| tol11. 01. 2012 |
The path can be "polished" and icy from many hikers.
The path itself is not dangerous, but it is true that stupid things have already happened on this path.
If there was a lot of snow and those 4 chimneys between Jermanca and Klin were covered with snow, it would be a bit "dangerous".
Now I think the biggest problem is just the slippery path.
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| Lisica17. 03. 2012 |
Today 3 hours leisurely uphill with stops, about 2 hours down. Very windy on top - windstopper obligatory. A little snow below the summit, crampons not needed. Magnificent views.
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| Betoner18. 07. 2012 |
Conquered yesterday, nice weather, well-marked trail.
The end is quite a steep slope, but nice view, worth it.
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| diamantek2. 05. 2013 |
I'm interested if the path to Kamniško sedlo is snow-free? Thanks.
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| pohodnik in kuža2. 05. 2013 |
Yesterday, May 1st, we were at Kamniško sedlo. From the shepherd's hut onwards there was still a lot of snow and the path was strenuous. When we reached the top of the saddle to the hut, it was wonderful. The sun was shining all the way and probably the snow won't last long. The hut was closed, although there were many hikers at it. Back down was express on the snow.
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| gregorp12. 05. 2013 |
Today after a long time back to Kamniško sedlo. After morning hesitation about the weather conditions, I still decide to try. Almost no snow on the path, the hut was closed today due to the weather (snowflakes with wind).
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| dharma8422. 07. 2013 |
On Saturday I went on this path and I'm completely enthusiastic. Super marked path and wonderful views. With average fitness up in 2.5 hours, without stops. But I'm especially enthusiastic about the caretakers and staff at the hut. Haven't met such friendly, fun and accommodating people for a long time. I'm glad you can still find the right people in the right place.
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| petruša13. 08. 2013 |
Hello, I'm wondering if you can drive to the lower station of the cable car and then walk from there. lp
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| petruša14. 08. 2013 |
What about to the lower cable car station, since it says you go past it. Because we already parked there and went to Grintovec from there. It's not that we lack fitness, but we have 2.5 hours drive here and then home to calculate, so if you save at least an hour it's something...lp
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| serajko14. 08. 2013 |
lp
@ petruša Decide from which cable car station you plan to ascend to Kamniško sedlo . There are namely two, to Kamniško and to Kokrško sedlo At the cable car to Kamniško parking is not allowed due to lack of space .For more info send ZS
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| tinky14. 08. 2013 |
petruša, the junction to the lower station of the freight cable car to Kokrško sedlo is before the junction to the lower station of the freight cable car to Kamniško sedlo. The road to the lower station at Kamniško sedlo branches off at a sharp left bend, from where it is still a few minutes (walking) to the lower station. The junction is marked.
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| petruša14. 08. 2013 |
Thanks, now it's clearer to me, I thought you go past the one that then goes to Kokrško sedlo. Of course Grintovec is on the other side more than Kamniško sedlo, we will go from Kamniška Bistrica, anyway get up early and go, if there's will it will happen. Lp
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| mpurg30. 08. 2013 |
one question, if anyone knows!:
In what time can one realistically, with good fitness, get from the Pred Belo parking lot to Ojstrica and then to the hut at Kamniško sedlo? Is it feasible in 6-7 hours? thanks
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| mpurg30. 08. 2013 |
one question, if anyone knows!:
In what time can one realistically, with good fitness, get from the Pred Belo parking lot to Ojstrica and then to the hut at Kamniško sedlo? Is it feasible in 6-7 hours? thanks
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| klm30. 08. 2013 |
If you're in very good shape, even in less than 4 hours.
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| otiv30. 08. 2013 |
@klm, that would be a bit tough, unless you're a mountain runner.
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| klm30. 08. 2013 |
I don't identify as a mountain runner, but I run, the timetable is accurate. The whole loop (starting point Bela - Korošica - Ojstrica - Škarje - Planjava - Kamniško sedlo - Kamniška bistrica - Bela) takes me about 4.30h.
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| mpurg30. 08. 2013 |
4 hours is pretty crazy we'll see how it goes for me
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| mpurg30. 08. 2013 |
4 hours is pretty crazy we'll see how it goes for me
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| ada15. 12. 2013 |
I'm wondering if the hut is open in winter, I mean on weekends and New Year's Eve? thanks for the information
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| _sandra_16. 12. 2013 |
the hut is in principle open on weekends, check at PD KAMNIK, yesterday they closed it at 14:00 already;
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| gams4416. 12. 2013 |
already muddy
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| borutpovse18. 12. 2013 |
With good fitness, what is the realistic time from Pred Belo parking to Ojstrica and then to the hut on Kamniško sedlo? Feasible in 6-7 hours? Thanks
We went reverse like kids, took altogether with breaks 9h. lp
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| lijaneja18. 12. 2013 |
In dry conditions and small backpack 5 hours is realistic time. (with side trip to Planjava)
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| VesnaJager6. 07. 2014 |
What are the current conditions at Kamniško sedlo? Is there still snow on the path? Starting point Dom v Kamniški Bistrici.
Thanks. Regards
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| dellorto3625. 12. 2014 |
On Sunday 21.12. I was at the saddle. Weather was phenomenal, sky without a cloud, at the hut maybe all together 12 people and one little dog from the mountain it was worth it, lp
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| markopf12. 02. 2015 |
I want to go up, but I don't know when it will be dry enough. Now is probably not the right time.
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| andrej7812. 02. 2015 |
Now there's no snow at all...
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| subaru13. 02. 2015 |
markopf - I was up there yesterday. The path is nicely trodden, a bit frozen, very little snow at the top - it's been blown away. For a better feel, it's recommended to have some crampons, but it goes without too.
Next to the track it sinks a bit.
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| Planinec427. 03. 2015 |
Hi. Just wondering if anyone has been on this trail to Kamniško sedlo recently in shorts? Curious about the conditions, as I plan to go up tomorrow. Weather is supposed to be good!
Best regards, planinec4
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| maucec4027. 03. 2015 |
Today it's snowing quite a bit in the Kamnik Alps, so tomorrow there will probably be quite some fresh snow on K. Sedlo. Good luck!
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| redbull27. 03. 2015 |
nice trodden path. and take some spare socks because of the moisture.
good luck
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| Planinec427. 03. 2015 |
No harm in trying. If it's too risky, I'll turn back. But I think there won't be a problem, and nice weather tomorrow too. Regards
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| plana4. 04. 2015 |
Hi! I'm wondering if anyone has been up to K. saddle these days and how much snow is left on the path?
LP
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| subaru4. 04. 2015 |
There's still some snow, a bit more will fall tonight, but no problem getting to the saddle. Some gaiters wouldn't hurt.
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| cvalenti5. 04. 2015 |
Subaru, that's misleading. I was at the saddle on Thursday and Friday. You don't need gaiters at all, but you 100% need crampons, especially when you pass the Kamrica through the ridge. The top is all swept and icy. Best regards and safe steps.
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| Viper5. 04. 2015 |
Where is this ridge past Kamrica through the ridge?
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| tol6. 04. 2015 |
Hm...
Kamrca is a rock (boulder), in the middle of the last steep slope to Kamniško sedlo (between the hut on Pastirci and Koča na Kam. Sedlu).
From Kamrca the path goes a bit right towards the scree on Planjava, on the left it rises this "ridge", to which one variant of the path then joins and leads you from the scree to the nice grass in front of the hut on the saddle.
I think that's what's meant as "ridge".
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| Viper6. 04. 2015 |
I know Kamrca is a boulder in the middle of the slope. Now I also know where this ridge is.
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| Jigga17. 04. 2015 |
I'm wondering if the hut is open say this Sunday (19.4) when nice weather is forecast?
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| Branee17. 04. 2015 |
Nice weather has nothing to do with when something will be open. Otherwise you have it here: http://www.pzs.si/novice.php?pid=9811
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| ejti17. 04. 2015 |
Weather does have quite a bit to do with when the hut will be open. On Sunday yes, on Saturday no.
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| Branee17. 04. 2015 |
There aren't many like that: http://www.pzs.si/koce.php?reg=4
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| Jigga30. 04. 2015 |
How is the hut opening and food this weekend? The weather looks quite bad.
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| subaru30. 04. 2015 |
As can be seen on the PD Kamnik page, the hut will be closed these days.
On days when the hut is open (pre-season), you only get drinks. Food from the backpack.
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| Ruzowski2. 05. 2015 |
Yesterday (1.5.) the hut was open. I have no info on food supply, but excellent tea is available from the friendly staff.
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| tomek09127. 06. 2015 |
please, when does the bus run to the Dom from Kamniška Bistrica and back?
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| crnistane12. 06. 2016 |
...please, how is it really now? When you check open mountain huts it says OSNP, but when you click on it, it opens a page marked green for June, open hut every day.....
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| crnistane12. 06. 2016 |
...thanks grega z brega.....
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| kotnk12. 06. 2016 |
I was up there on Wednesday. It was marked as open... but it wasn't yet... from yesterday on the hut should be open every day...
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| subaru12. 06. 2016 |
For some years now, during the main season the hut has been continuously open from the second weekend in June to the second weekend in October.
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| stane194922. 07. 2016 |
Since I'm not at home in Kamniške, I'm interested in what the variant from Koča na Kamniškem sedlu to Grintovec is like?
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| jax22. 07. 2016 |
Of course it's possible, but it's quite far. You have to go to the top of Turska gora, then cross over Sleme to Bivak pod Grintovcem and then over Mlinarsko sedlo to the summit. Or - if you're at it - you can also go over the top of Skuta. And it's superfluous to add - if you're attempting something like that, better take 2 days.
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| sh22. 07. 2016 |
If you want to go to Grintovec, go from Kamniška Bistrica rather to Kokrško sedlo, from there you can conquer it even in one day with some fitness.
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| redbull22. 07. 2016 |
just follow the marked path. From Turska gora onwards, Grintovec is already written on the sign. You'll have a nice walk
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| robi210730. 10. 2016 |
Yesterday I was up there. The trail is nice, fairly steep. However, the stated ascent time of 3h45m might be exaggerated. I myself took for the ascent from Kamniška Bistrica to Pastirji 1h40m, to the top then another 50 min. Total thus 2.5 hours for ascent, for descent 2 hours. And I'm no racer, moderately fit, quite burdened with kilos. Quite a few hikers (and also some female hikers) overtook me on the way. It is true that I didn't rest at all in between and was already quite exhausted in the final steep section. The time 3h45m should thus be taken with reserve. Just so much, if someone is making some time calculations and relies on the stated walking time. Otherwise, the trail is well marked and sufficiently trodden so that a hiker (female hiker) regarding the path is not in doubt even for a moment. The view from the saddle is superb. Highly recommended.
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| Enjan30. 12. 2016 |
Will anyone be celebrating New Year's Eve on Kamniško sedlo, or on Brana?
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| subaru30. 12. 2016 |
Given that the hut on KS is open on 31.12. and 1.1., some will surely celebrate New Year's Eve on KS.
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| redbull30. 12. 2016 |
Brana will probably have more crowds than the Koča on Kamniško sedlo
Happy and joyful celebration
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| Pekana29. 05. 2018 |
Come on! We went with our little one on Sunday to Kamniško sedlo, right from Bistrica our place, go to Jermanca, she managed 3:45, it was tough though. I was also completely exhausted. But then I parked a kilometer or two before Jermanca, too bad for the car here, the blackberry bushes had already started so she walked where the cat jumped all night. She didn't drink much from me, but poured for others, since you're already picnicking. She got so tipsy like a hundred mothers, when Real won in football, ours is for Real... But then we climbed up in 3 hours comfortably and even got the award. Up there action, rain almost at the end, we started unpacking, it was madness flat out, I thought this crisis shouldn't last... We were already dancing with the climbers, ours got her shoe stuck somehow that the master hooked it with a carabiner. I said, master, hook it properly, just in case she doesn't look where the ice axe from pants... it's already green ratou. No, then down completely wrecked, we barely drove. In between we also argued about parking.. now to sleep, tomorrow I can already be in Milan at 5am...
Oh and for all those interested in the path, tree branches in some places reach the path and also grass and bushes, that's why I got a tick too!!! Let grandma check when I get home... take care
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| Kafetarca21. 06. 2018 |
On Saturday I plan to go up, but I'm a bit worried now due to the weather forecast that I might get heavy rain up there Would it be safer to postpone?
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| Kafetarca21. 06. 2018 |
Cool, then the trip is on (also, our nicks match )
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| Hribolazec8121. 06. 2018 |
I'm curious how much time it takes and how difficult it is from the saddle to the summit of Planjava?
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| kenig17. 11. 2018 |
tomorrow I plan to ascend, does anyone have fresh info about the path, tnx
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| exwannabe17. 11. 2018 |
Hmmmm... what fresh info... yes, the markers are still there... lol
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| kenig17. 11. 2018 |
Actually I meant info about the path, weather, snow and such, but yeah, tnx
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| Lobnican29. 12. 2018 |
Hi, what are the conditions on the path, do you need crampons and ice axe, and how much snow is there.. Thanks for reply
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| exwannabe30. 12. 2018 |
Yes, and don't forget ice screws and rope...
Can't you really look a bit "around" yourselves... on hribi.net there is also the "Forum-Razmere" page and all info is there... not to mention the webcam at the saddle.
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| ejti1. 01. 2019 |
Chains come in quite handy.
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| TinaHefe23. 03. 2019 |
Hello. What are the conditions like, how much snow is still on the trail? Is the trail from Pastircev onwards well trodden? And is the hut open in nice weather? Thanks for the reply
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| Bostjan1971123. 03. 2019 |
conditions excellent today, path nicely trodden, no crampons needed, little snow, hut open today and will be tomorrow too
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| SunChine7. 12. 2019 |
Hi. Are crampons needed to the hut, or do smaller microspikes suffice? Thanks for info.
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| PixlSlo29. 07. 2020 |
The path to Kamniško sedlo is well marked, so it's suitable also for beginners - however, one must be aware that those not well prepared will have some difficulties in the last quarter of the path. But all the effort is rewarded upon reaching the hut.
I recommend only an early start due to summer heat.
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| Elizabeth1618. 09. 2020 |
Hi, I'm wondering if I can park at the cargo cableway? Regards
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| MitjaBelak18. 09. 2020 |
Better drive a bit higher to Jermanca. There are usually quite a few cars. Road is so-so, a pity for a low car, otherwise it goes. A couple of bends right after the turn-off to Konec are a bit more rutted.
Verified on Wednesday.
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| franca18. 09. 2020 |
No parking allowed at the cargo cableway, and the road is too narrow to park alongside it. If you drive to Jermanče, the drive isn't much longer, the trail shortens by another half hour.
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| franca18. 09. 2020 |
No parking allowed at the cargo cableway, and the road is too narrow to park alongside it. If you drive to Jermanče, the drive isn't much longer, the trail shortens by another half hour.
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| farbnblond18. 09. 2020 |
Apparently now you can get nice greetings from the blues if you park at Jermanci, I advise caution.
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| sgabor31. 01. 2022 08:41:41 |
Yesterday (30.1.2022) I was at Kamniško sedlo. The road is nicely drivable all the way to Jermance. On some shady sections there are frozen parts on the roadway, but you can drive sensibly without issues.
Shortly after the paths from K.Bistrica and from Jermance merge, you have to cross 2 avalanches. Compacted and frozen snow, a bit of caution is not superfluous. The path is icy in places, and almost everywhere on the path full of leaves. Need to watch your step!
Snow starts at the puddle, without crampons it's a lottery. With crampons it goes like a snowcat! The snowy and packed path continues all the way to Pastirčki, then to the first boulder and start of scree. Then the tracks go more or less directly up, past Kamrca and further. A little below the hut it joins the existing path. At the top by the hut and above the hut great views of Planjava, Brana, Turska gora, Skuta, Mrzla gora and Logarska dolina. Excellent day!
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| lijaneja31. 01. 2022 14:30:44 |
You forgot to write that they put up the traffic sign down there again...
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| grega_z_brega3. 02. 2022 07:54:24 |
It will stand until 15.3., because winter service is not provided on these road sections.
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| lijaneja3. 02. 2022 09:03:17 |
Pure idiocy. Winter service starts after March 15. We're not in the southern hemisphere
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| grega_z_brega3. 02. 2022 09:59:21 |
That's when the winter season on roads ends, you know.
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| willym13. 06. 2023 08:31:55 |
What's up with the Dom v Kamniški Bistrici?
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| Muškercva13. 06. 2023 09:26:13 |
Dom v Kamniški Bistrici was open on Saturday, and the hut at Kamniško sedlo too.
Regards
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| Razgledka29. 06. 2023 22:00:17 |
Is the road to Jermanca passable? Found a lot of information, all older than a year. Thanks!
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| Sebahudin30. 06. 2023 11:50:54 |
Passable, but in poor condition
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| Levacic19. 08. 2024 17:29:51 |
Very nice forest path, but when you come out of the forest it takes your breath away. Kamniška koča is comfortable, they offer good food and drink. From the top the view is insanely great
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