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IgorZlodej10. 06. 2010 19:32:50
The mountain has been scouted for several years already. After a few years of collecting data from experts, observations from nearby mountains, and map reviews, last year came the news that the Stritar guys had climbed the mountain. Once, the army occupied it, they had radars up there, invisible battles raged between NATO and the Eastern bloc, the area was closed off, and the once-built paths lay abandoned for long years. A few years ago the army left the mountain, last year they even removed the supply cableway, and today I drive to Lužnica (Bagni di Lusnizza). The actual starting point is in Sveta Katarina, but since there's been no bridge there for years, the only way to cross without wading Beli potok and Bela is the old railway bridge in Lužnica. So I go over that bridge, where there's now a bike path, and walk about 15-20 minutes along the right bank of Bela upstream, then turn left onto the broad forested ridge, clearly visible from both Kanalska roads. Soon I find a trail marked here and there with old red dots and lines. The trail can be easily followed without special difficulties to Monte Pin (1506) and beyond. You rarely walk on such soft ground, really enjoyable, mostly soft grass and leaves in the forest. A bit higher the path turns to rockier terrain, there are even some very old forged pitons and some wire, then forest again, then I reach a clearing where there was a fire years ago. I ascend over these slopes under M. Ghisniz, a barely visible trail turns left under the cliffs of the aforementioned mountain. I traverse somewhat crumbly scree slopes always leftward, with some gullies in between where you have to be extra careful, as parts of the old trail are almost washed away in places. After a long traverse I reach the ridge, cross a notch, descend a few meters to the NE slope, then up a gully with some pitons and wire again to the ridge, and along it through bushes to the upper station of the former cableway. The structures on the summit plateau are truly infamous, from the cableway there's a long covered tunnel to the other objects, behind one building lies a huge radar dish, nearby a large concreted helipad that any alpine hut would envy. In short, the sight of the objects on the mountain shakes you, and the inevitable question is: Why? While surveying these objects I notice a rise to the west that seems even higher than the highest point where the abandoned military structures stand. There's even a cross on top. Since this could actually be the summit or at least the west summit of Šinavc, I of course head right to the cross. The path through dense bushes is quite hard to follow. Right at the cross I decide not to return the ascent route, but continue to Mokrine. I already knew the path from the top by description, and from planina Biffil I'd walked it before. I call a buddy and arrange pickup, then descend to the NW side of the mountain. Red dots safely guide me downhill (thanks Alessio). Below I fill up with water at a gully, cross it, and on the other side slightly ascend through forest, soon at planina Biffil, then a short ascent to an unnamed saddle and on along a nice panoramic path and later a real forest road all to planina Javornik where I meet my driver, who quickly did a short tour to Krnica and descended to planina Corona. Then another good 10 minutes to Mokrine pass, where sadly all taverns are closed, so had to go a few hundred meters to the Austrian side where they pour beer too, don't ask if we drank it. From Lužnica over Šinavc to Mokrine 7.30 h pure walking. Recommended for experienced who master pathless terrain flawlessly and have a sense of orientation.
Monte Scinauz bridge over Bela in Lužnica1
Monte Scinauz beautiful path2
Monte Scinauz first steeper section3
Monte Scinauz I haven't seen such wedges anywhere yet4
Monte Scinauz some old wire is still installed5
Monte Scinauz once burned slopes under Monte Ghisniz6
Monte Scinauz what were the chamois wondering about7
Monte Scinauz valley far below8
Monte Scinauz barely visible path on the rocky slope9
Monte Scinauz which ran along the southern slopes under the wall10
Monte Scinauz here I cross from southern to northern slope, but only briefly11
Monte Scinauz then climb a gully with some old fixed protections12
Monte Scinauz and the summit with structures appears13
Monte Scinauz such tables are everywhere14
Monte Scinauz closed tunnel connects all structures on the mountain15
Monte Scinauz 16
Monte Scinauz rolls of barbed wire everywhere17
Monte Scinauz 18
Monte Scinauz 19
Monte Scinauz Is this the real summit?20
Monte Scinauz 21
Monte Scinauz descent on NW side22
Monte Scinauz descent mainly through central part of the mountain23
Monte Scinauz view of the mountain from Biffil pasture24
Monte Scinauz Biffil pasture and unnamed saddle behind25
Monte Scinauz nice path across pastures26
Monte Scinauz view back from Auernig pasture (Javornik)27
Monte Scinauz Mokrine, hotel Forcella28
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viharnik10. 06. 2010 21:00:35
Igor this is some serious pathless terrain and congrats on managing it. I'd struggle with this.
Please explain which peak is right before the notch where the Ceria Merlone path arrives from Škrbina prednje špranje?. From there a path branches off about 20m before the saddle to the left and 5min to the top. Up there is just one old stake. Thanks for the info!.nasmeh
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VidPogacnik11. 06. 2010 10:40:30
Congrats Igor on a really tough tour! The description, together with Urška's on Kibuba, is very good too. Jasmina and I were at the summit on June 6, of course from the north side. Crossing those steep gullies requires quite some caution, the ascent from SE is probably even a bit more demanding.

Best regards!
Vid
M. Scinauz from Biffil pasture. 6.6.2010.1
Evening at Biffil pasture2
Western Julian Alps from M. Scinauz. 6.6.2010.3
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IgorZlodej11. 06. 2010 20:26:38
viharnik and Vid thanks for the congrats. Really a tough tour, so the satisfaction is all the greater, if of course I subtract that junk on the mountain that will mark the summit forever. It's really harder from SE as I found out, mainly much more exposed than on NW. Otherwise truly very solitary and will remain so despite openness mainly due to long approaches. Personally I think the area west from Ukva valley to Rio Bombaso is one of the wildest and most solitary.
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jaz4. 05. 2011 22:19:04
Hi!
Monte Cavallo from Auernig mountain pasture1
will eat my old bread2
Monte Cerchio3
the path from the saddle is visible4
Planina Biffil5
Monte Scinauz6
need to climb to the ridge7
rocky path8
view down the gully9
passage to the ridge10
barracks on the summit11
human madness knows no bounds12
cableway13
cross14
long will be the way back15
downhill16
winding path17
cyclamens18
where primroses bloom19
rhododendron20
along the path21
towers22
on Mokrine23
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Kili022. 08. 2014 22:07:32
With a buddy we tackled the tour from Mokrine by bike, to the end of the road, and a bit further on the track, then bike into the forest and continued on foot towards planina Biffil, where quite logically we turn right, where we constantly see the mighty Šinavc in front of us, just need to watch when to turn into the forest, the junction on the meadow is marked with a red arrow on a short stump, then just follow the red dots that take us to the summit.
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On 7.10.2003, maintenance was discontinued, most of the hut was emptied, the main building is unlocked, so bivouacking inside is possible.6
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cenc15. 12. 2016 08:55:30
On Saturday I was on Šinavc with buddies.
Italians made sure you can cross Beli potok in Sveta Katarina with a movable plank set on the stream bank.
Otherwise the summit itself is very panoramic and would be
also very nice, if there weren't those horrible, at least currently abandoned, structures on it.
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bagi21. 11. 2018 11:36:59
For decades inaccessible mountain has only recently opened its secrets to hikers. Overgrown trails are turning traceable and directions to the summit are no longer so questionable. In an extended group we explored accesses from Lužnica and Sv. Katarina this time. Both starting points are in the Kanalska valley between Trbiž and Tablja.

As many as 18 curious folks from all winds gathered under the auspices of PD Rašica. We parked our iron horses right before Lužnica, crossed the bike bridge over Bela and on the opposite side plunged steeply up a poorly visible trail. This one is quite new and I haven't seen a description of this variant anywhere yet. No marks, but the path hides successfully here and there causing doubts to its users nasmeh. Much higher on the ridge it joins the classic access from Sv. Katarina.

The continuation is marked with red dots and mostly easy to follow. When the path traverses slopes it becomes significantly more demanding. Grass gives way to rocks, exposure increases, pulse can rise. A bit more caution and calm head solves all problems. Helmet is a welcome headgear in this section. After some tricky passages the path calms and brings you without further issues to the abandoned military objects right below the summit. To it is just a stone's throw.

Šinavc summit is now a former radar platform. Because of it they concretely took away its height, similar to what happened to Pasja ravan here. The cross therefore stands on the neighboring summit, in recent past known for difficult access due to epic battles with bushes nasmeh. The situation is now much better, good souls cut out the path some time ago.

Return was along the access route. At the junction to Sv. Katarina part of the team turned there and explored that variant too. Nice, marked and well-trodden path first along the ridge, then in wide zigzags comfortably descends to the valley. For the grand finale need to cross just before Sv. Katarina the not so innocent Rio Bianco stream. No bridge, no movable plank, just some larger stones in the bed got us dry to the opposite bank. Thanks to you velik nasmeh.

In case of low water level in the stream I recommend the path from Sv. Katarina. It is fully marked with red dots too. Otherwise the described path from Lužnica is better choice, or even the variant from more distant Mokrine. There is also a connecting trail between Sv. Katarina and Lužnica along the Bela river bank. Its condition is questionable at high waters each time. We didn't check that this time.

More in the photo story. GPS track available too (contact on my profile or by email)

Start Lužnica (Bagni di Lusnizza) …. 46°30'06.7"N 13°22'58.5"E
Start Sv. Katarina (St. Caterine) … 46°30'10.7"N 13°23'47.0"E
Morning stretching and preparation for the path1
Small, poorly visible sign for the path start from Lužnica. Further on there are few such signs2
initial warm-up3
Soon at the beginning it was necessary to cross the scree-filled gully4
The fairly new ditched path is traceable, only at some places does it hide successfully.5
Cairns are mostly placed where there is no need.6
The path from Lužnica runs towards the ridge where the variant from Sv. Katarina passes.7
Marked junction. From here on, the path to Šinavc is marked with red dots.8
View of the Kanal Valley with Tablje (Pontebba) in the background.9
Marking of a special kind :)10
The view has opened up.11
There are more and more traverses over rocky ledges.12
Forged piton from the time of the dinosaurs :)13
The steepness is mostly not excessive.14
Protection of a special kind .... triple peg :)15
The exposure, appropriate to the terrain, is steadily increasing.16
During the break. Fog covered the summit section, so we had no views of Šinavc almost to the top.17
From here onwards, traversing the hillsides is the most demanding.18
View back at our group.19
Another view downwards.20
We also have to overcome a fairly sharp ridge.21
After the ridge the path gradually eases, not many difficult sections remain.22
Towards the summit section23
Artificially lowered summit of Šinavc. Military radar stood here.24
High mountains require special measures against lightning. Such Faraday cages I have not seen anywhere else.25
Adjacent peak with a cross. The heights of both are almost identical26
Fortunately the passages are carved out, completely without close encounters with scree still didn't go :)27
This time's team.28
Return went along the access direction29
Transport tunnel for equipment transport from the station of the former cable car to higher buildings30
The interior of the tunnel is still very well preserved, even the electric transporter just waits to be started.31
Upper cable car station, where the tooth of time and lack of maintenance are already visible. Roof parts lie everywhere.32
Back on the ridge.33
This saddle must be crossed also on descent.34
On the return we had nice weather and the sun warmed us pleasantly.35
View of Naborjetske gore, goal of the next day.36
On the descent37
We also explored the condition of the path from Sv. Katarina.38
Pleasant and well-trodden path gently descends towards the valley.39
I'm not sure these are Knafelčeva markings, but they are very similar.40
Just before the valley the path enters a beautiful beech forest that has already prepared for winter hibernation.41
The only crossing over Rio Bianco towards Sv. Katarina. The stream is quite strong despite its innocent appearance.42
Conclusion. Both teams arrived simultaneously at the starting point at Lužnica.43
Map of the traversed path.44
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2061alessio21. 11. 2018 17:11:40
hi, a friend former work colleague cut and marked this path from S.Katarina 2 years ago because he paraglides down from it, he'll be glad if more people use it, I recommend the tour in the direction as our forever friend Igor did (miss you a lot), now I got news from PD CAI Pontebba/Tablja that from Mokrine place they extended the forest road almost to Biffil.
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2061alessio28. 11. 2018 16:27:04
on YOU TUBE "scinauz ... la montagna misteriosa", he is the one who cut and marked the path nasmeh
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cico28. 11. 2018 21:59:46
Fantastic video, in spring I too hope
for hike and fly, Alessio, thanks for the info
on the path and videovelik nasmehvelik nasmeh greetings!!!!
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2061alessio29. 11. 2018 15:58:57
check also "hike & fly grossglockner" and "hike & fly sul Mangart di Coritenza"mežikanje
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cico29. 11. 2018 17:03:51
Looked at all, thanksnasmehnasmeh
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bagi3. 07. 2019 13:09:24
Šinavc somehow gets under your skin and after last year's ascent from Lužnica we absolutely had to check the access from Mokrin too. We knew it was long, but not THAT long velik nasmeh. The road adds up to good eight kilometers, one way of course and another four to reach the top. But it's not as boring as it sounds. The road is gravel, winding and pleasant to walk, leading practically to pasture Biff. Cyclists will have advantage here, but no way without effort zavijanje z očmi.

On pasture Biff just before the wall of Šinavc don't let the path by the building on the right lower side mislead you. You need to keep to the left ridge and a bit below the middle of its slope is the entry to the trodden path. It's already marked with red dots at the start of the forest and you must find them for worry-free continuation. More or less visible dots follow to the top.

Of course it won't go with hands in pockets nasmeh. No sense describing the ascent in detail, but I can say the initial two gullies indicate the path's character. There's quite some exposure, trail occasionally poorly trodden. My personal opinion is the ascent to Šinavc from Mokrin is a bit easier than that from Lužnica, or Sv. Katarina. Still, you need plenty of caution in reserve and you must be grown up for such paths. No snow left anywhere, but plenty of water in gullies. Descent in reverse direction. Total 24 km and 1600 elevation gain.

Coordinates of start (Italian side Mokrin) ... 46.557547, 13.278920


We started on the Italian side of Mokrin, right behind the hotel1
Alpine pasture Auernig in the initial section of the path.2
Junction for Monte Corono, the border mountain between Austria and Italy.3
Trail 504 is closed in the gully area where Rio Bianco flows. No problems to planina Biff.4
Hunters have camouflaged it and covered it with a blanket so it doesn't get cold at night. Incredible what steep slope it climbed to.5
Still view from the road. These spires accessible only to birds :)6
This too is alongside the road.7
group8
When the road swings to the north side completely different views open.9
Everywhere full of flowers.10
Šinavc in front of us. Path continuation on the left green slope.11
Malga Biff, renovated, still uninhabited. To its right a path is seen but not the right one.12
Somewhere in the middle of the slope follow the poorly visible path to the forest.13
To continue without bushwhacking need to catch those markers.14
we have to go up there15
initial gully16
Another very deep gully before ascent to Šinavc.17
Markers are more or less visible but constant and need to be found.18
Path detail.19
We are already on the slope. Exposure mostly not significant, but details require extra caution.20
Plenty of water on the slope. Here even cross wet mossy rocks.21
Sometimes path takes its own direction and attention is needed.22
Another stream to refill water supplies.23
In final part just below summit. For return remember path exit.24
A spaceship has landed right on top of Šinavac :)25
Faraday cage for effective protection against lightning. During thunderclaps, earplugs were probably mandatory equipment26
Upper cable car station. In the tunnel there are still conveyors for delivering goods from the station to the upper facilities27
Adjacent peak with a cross …28
… and the two of us29
The return road got significantly longer in the heat and dragged on accordingly for us :)30
GPS track of the hiked path.31
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bagi21. 07. 2020 12:50:37
For starting point we chose Sv. Katarina in Kanalska dolina. After morning foot washing in high and cold Rio Bianco we found the hidden path and bit into the steepness. Vegetation is seasonally lush and some anti-tick treatment comes in handy.

Some fallen trees bypassed without trouble, but poorly visible red dots not advisable to lose. Occasionally they are the only guide to the path. Rocky passages are uncomfortably cramped, many holds of dubious quality. Suitable only for those experienced in such terrain.

At the top nothing particularly new, military objects persistently decaying. Passage through transport tunnel no longer possible, as doors in lower part welded, in upper under lock. We returned same way. Met no one, even the car was bored on the large parking lot nasmeh.

Right at the beginning ... this time no other way than shoes in hand1
Abundant vegetation, abundant dew, not to mention the ticks …2
above the tree line3
Kanal Valley towards Tabla4
The continuation runs mostly over rocky terrain5
Rusty relic from antiquity6
The path is somewhat trodden like this … more in places, less in others7
It is essential to follow the red dots to avoid straying in the wrong direction8
Here the path crosses the ridge9
The direction is marked, the path exposed10
View back11
Upper station of the military cableway with excellent view12
Transport tunnels are, unlike the buildings, in excellent condition13
At the upper facility is the only entrance to the tunnels, but it is locked14
Rain curtains in the distance have, according to forecasts, arrived quite early15
Summit of Šinavc, lowered and levelled for the needs of the radar station16
… and here the radar rotated17
We returned along the same path; luckily the drizzle caught us only in the forest18
GPS track of the hiked path.19
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