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Montaz from Dunja

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redbull6. 08. 2018 08:18:31
You stick to the ridge, grassy base, all the way to the end of Zabuš. If I repeated this to Zabuš now I wouldn't do it, better descend earlier and cross lower and reach the marked path that comes from Pecol. Descent from Zabuš on those grasses, rocks is really almost indescribably difficult. I will have it written in the blog in a day or so, otherwise there's enough written about Mihelič
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taubi48. 08. 2018 11:45:40
On the left side of Pipan ladder probably means looking from above.
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redbull8. 08. 2018 21:37:37
yes, marked with red
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redbull21. 09. 2019 22:15:21
Via Dogna to Montaz (21.09.19)

Nice days must be used for nice, beautiful routes. Among them surely the route from Dunje. This year there seemed to be more crowds than last year. We didn't meet anyone in it. The path is without features, as described above. From Spik above Polici we didn't descend via Findenegg, as we didn't want to loosen any stones on hikers. Normal descent left of Pipan ladder and traverse right under Findenegg. Incredible is the needle ridge leading to Jof di Mieza. Followed Via Amalia. Under it we headed to the lower path, where from peak no. 652 you can already see nicely the Krnica Foran de la Grave. From the saddle then descent to the morning starting point. Day without a cloud with right temperature and even nicer tour
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natural bivouac Muschi4
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above the belvedere still some original approach8
magnificent sphinx9
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Findenegg11
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Viš still with the existing icefield spring14
Mali and Veliki Nabojs.15
Pecol16
Sulič ridge (Cresta delle Lancie)17
Amalia18
descent into the sinkhole Foran dela Grave 65219
descent to the starting point20
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redbull16. 09. 2020 04:23:31
Poldasna Spica-Piparji-Via Dogna-Montaz (12.09.20)

From Saisere I climbed past Rifugio Grego to Poldasna Spica. The sun shone nicely here. From Bivacco Gemona I continued traversing under Piparji all the way under saddle F.Cianalot, here then down into Dogna valley to chapel Zacchi. Here starts the beautiful route Via Dogna. Today was already the third ascent on it, so I know it well. To Paso Cativ it dragged on. View of the wall above Bivacco Muschi is incredible, rock is excellent. Ascent via Findenegg I probably did for the first time without visitors. From the top return along ascent path to Bivacco Suringar and via Amalia back to Saisere. Accumulated 3200m ascent.
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Gemona3
Jof di Miezegnot4
Towards the Highest in this section5
Below Piparji6
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A little below the saddle F.Cianalot 1830m9
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Here begins one of the most beautiful routes12
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Paso Cativ15
green triangle marker on the other side16
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natural bivouac Muschi18
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excellent rock20
view back from...21
.. for some a belvedere, for others it's a bit lower.22
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view into the gully towards the North Tower24
Suringar25
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Špik above the ledges27
Viš28
the more sh*tty part29
I was there before30
Amalia31
right Amalia, left Via Kugy32
Always beautiful   Little and Big Nabojs33
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AI14. 09. 2021 11:47:09
Since it's not too late for this tour, here's a picture of Amalia's condition three days ago.
Below is dry, unlike Kugy where there's really a lot of snow. Above there are two snowfields, the lower one might be more problematic than the upper.
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dprapr14. 09. 2021 12:34:39
You should post this on that link. Probably someone would be interested. Dunja is on the other side.
https://www.hribi.net/trenutne_razmere/slo/diretta_kugy/1/3889
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2061alessio14. 09. 2021 15:42:17
I got news that bivakSuringar is now renovated, via Amalia is still officially closed because of that part in picture 29 (redbull above).
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redbull14. 09. 2021 18:06:59
How should they fix that part on my 29th picture Alessio?
In what way?
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2061alessio17. 09. 2021 00:11:56
I refer your question to CAI SAF UDINE because they maintain this path and have officially closed it.
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lojze182511. 09. 2023 20:18:18
On Saturday, 9.9.23, via Dogna and then across the glacier to the Montaž summit. No issues on the path itself. At bivak Muschi, across the gully almost a stream flows, so left across the belly, where it is not even that demanding. Further, very enjoyable scrambling where the joy ends too soon. At Suringar, solitude ends and we fall into the crowd. Extension to Cima Verde and return via Amalia, where again no problems on the path. Only an extra long descent back to Dunja amid sunset colors. Great experience in the Western Julians.
At the junction to via Dogno1
Val Rotta?2
Above the Clapadorie gorge3
Views while scrambling in the Gray Wall4
At Belvedere5
On the path towards Cima Verde6
Jam on the scree7
Younglings8
Lion's ridge on via Amalia9
Amalia10
Glacier remnants at the entrance to via Kugy11
Sunset at Krniška škrbina12
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palček plezalček11. 09. 2023 21:34:22
Very nice loop... congratulations. nasmeh
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redbull12. 09. 2023 05:16:55
Congratulations, perfect
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Starko Zel15. 09. 2023 00:41:12
Did we have the same path, except for the descent from the summit?
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lojze182515. 09. 2023 19:59:27
Thanks redbul & palček plezalček, it really was a mega tour.

Starko_zel yeah probably we met a few times on the path, last on the summit. We chose a little detour for the return velik nasmeh
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Robert Dolenec16. 09. 2023 12:35:45
Congratulations to both.
Years pass, memories remain. A tour that imprints deep into the soul.
To meet someone else on this tour is a great rarity, or very unusual velik nasmeh; even ibex are only in the upper part.

As a curiosity, I add a romantic description of the path - quote from Mašer guide.

In the Julian Alps, the west wall of Montaž is an unrivaled notion of mightiness and mountain grandeur!
The view of the highest wall in mountaineering literally crushes you. Deep gullies, vertical sharp pillars, narrow ledges above huge abysses, wild couloirs fill you with awe and reverence, yet irresistibly invite you into their rocky embrace.

Difficulty: Via Dogna is infinitely beautiful and infinitely long tour! Only a top-skilled and fit mountaineer can tackle it. Already in the lower part there are intermediate pitches of II degree.
The gray wall means 300 meters of II-grade climbing, sometimes even noticeably more.
There are almost no markings except at the very beginning of the path, orientation is extremely complicated.
Via Dogna is a magnificent tour, a great experience that ennobles the spirit and makes life nobler and richer (all quoted from Mašer guide).

Really magnificent tour in quality rock, on narrow exposed ledges. The wall is respectfully vertical and precipitous in places for climbing without protection. Nature is wild in the true sense of the word.
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janezs738. 10. 2023 17:00:24
Yesterday my colleague and I took advantage of the exceptional weather and treated ourselves to Montaž from Dunja. A real treat of the season!

In the lower part you follow the logic of the partially vegetated or partially scree-filled ledge between the walls of the western Montaž pillars and the Clapadorio gorge as long as it goes. At that point it's not completely obvious to go left, because it seems you'll run into the black wall, but generally towards it, around it and above it the red dots help. Then orientation is trivial again to the "bivouac" Muschi, where the tour gets more serious.

We chose the left white approach for the transition to the ramp, because with poles on the backpack it seemed too awkward to push through the pre-climb on the right - directly from the bivouac. On the left side there are some nice hidden holds, so it goes without problems.

Each of us climbed the ramp differently, you can go practically anywhere you want to the exit. But perhaps it's not unimportant info that the far left passages lead to the headwall, from which to Belvedere only by rappelling. So ideally to the right, but not too far right. From the grassy ledge before the ramp exit there are at least 4 diagonal chimneys. I chose the second from the right, along which we reached Belvedere with one small detour even without protection. The section is quite open, but nowhere exceeds III grade.

From Belvedere we didn't go towards the new red dot along the grass to the left, because it's harder later, but directly up - because it's really obvious (as Dejan hinted to me - thanks for the info!), that it's easier there later. Then along the right side of the chimney to the left and through the chimney to easier terrain higher up.

From there again almost anywhere to Amalia, along it to Suringar and further through Findeneg's glacier to the top.

Solitude, extremely subtle passages, views beautiful to go mad, make this tour unforgettable. To do the tour in reasonable time, you need to climb independently and relaxed up to III grade. Otherwise things can drag on quickly.
key switchback from the lower traverse above Clapadorio to the left, towards bivouac Muschi; view from the switchback back: left visible cairn below and right colleague already ascending in the opposite direction1
above the black wall sped classic of the lower part, šoder pač2
view from below bivouac Muschi towards the ramp; we two chose the white entry left3
detail in the white entry to the ramp; photographed downwards4
detail of exit from the ramp, along the diagonal gully leading directly to Belvedere5
above Belvedere straight up to the gully which we follow left6
in the mentioned gully...7
...and then in the chimney that leads higher into easier terrain8
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janezs7321. 09. 2025 17:11:21
On Saturday it was the day for this beauty on the far west of the Julians. After two years this time alone in this immense wilderness. When climbing the ramp I gladly treated myself to some harder passages, since the summit was not planned - the path itself was the goal.
With the car in Dunja the return was of course obligatory by descent via Amalia and crossing back to Dunja.
ledges on Clapadorio1
sometimes the terrain narrows2
until we enter the ramp - there is lots of space and plenty of options of all difficulties of course all the way to the last passage to Belvedere3
here you can see the pleasant continuation in the gully which (looking from Belvedere upwards) is straight ahead4
in the early one in the higher storey views are directed to the Sphinx5
during descent on Amalia views involuntarily stray also to Viš (and the tour just under a month ago)6
descent to Dunja on a nice path7
while descending Dunja view of the key part of the tour - here the lower part above the Clapadorio gorge is still visible8
here the upper part above Belvedere is better seen9
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